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Free Republic does not and will not support RINOS!! Not now!! Not ever!!
My day after Thanksgiving message | 11/26/200 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: DJ MacWoW

I have done that as an individual, but a campaign such as you suggest would be profound. REAL letters from real people that they could not possibly ignore.
Why don’t we?


1,841 posted on 11/28/2009 1:28:33 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: Melas

Sit somewhere else.


1,842 posted on 11/28/2009 1:30:52 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Melas; piytar

While I can understand piytar’s sentiment, I don’t concur with his recommendation. I frankly like having your libtards around. You show with every post how far the GOP has fallen in public esteem, and more importantly, why.

You are the voice of doom. You are socialist to the core. You, who mime conservative values and freedom, are willing to destroy every vestige of freedom we have for the sake of party over country. You want politics as usual, when politics as usual is what got us to this disgusting state of affairs in the first place. You have no ounce of fight, no vestige of honor for flag no country in you. When the fight really comes it will be you who are cowering in your homes, your basements and behind your women.

And that’s why I’m glad to have you stick around. The more you rant, the more people see you for what you are.


1,843 posted on 11/28/2009 1:32:41 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I especially think this is relates to the subject matter

AROO=Any Republican Over Obama.. LOL
Do we actually want the rinos to think they have it made because of obama? This is just my opinion. I really am not sure the letters and phone calls matter anymore. We called, wrote emails, letters and attended tea parties. Did they listen? They must really feel secure in their positions.

From the americanthinker link..

"...We all sucked it up. We went along. We embraced the ticket in the spirit of AROO (Any Republican Over Obama), and we held our noses until Sarah Palin came along. Ah, just a spoonful of Sarah helped the medicine go down. ? ..."

1,844 posted on 11/28/2009 1:34:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: Melas

Thank you..


1,845 posted on 11/28/2009 1:34:43 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: DJ MacWoW; MestaMachine

Do you think it’ll work.. I have a feeling they are already feeling the pinch a bit..


1,846 posted on 11/28/2009 1:36:30 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: Melas
I frankly like having your libtards around.

That's where equanimity get ya, around here.

1,847 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:02 PM PST by Cedric
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To: bcsco
You are socialist to the core.

Let's just address this one point, since you've charged me with it. Show me where I have ever made a single post that could even be remotely skewed as even mildly socialist? I'm nothing if not an avowed capitalist. I have never in my FR posting history advocated anything short of smaller government, lower taxes and the subsequent reductions in government spending. Your charge is thoroughly baseless, or an outright lie, only you know which one applies.

1,848 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:50 PM PST by Melas
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To: DJ MacWoW; ~Kim4VRWC's~
It has been a good thread with some very succinct posts.

It's been vindicating to read Jim Rob's postings in this thread which essentially mirror what myself and more than few others have consistently said in recent past. It's a concept that people seem to have trouble with for some reason. But it's very simple. It states that we won't vote for, or support NON-CONSERVATIVES; plain and simple. Whether they be RINOs, or dems, or little green men with flower pots on their heads! If they aren't conservatives, we aren't supporting them.

People who have seen this from us in the past try to read into it and then ask all the same goofy questions they've been asking here in this thread. They ask for us to play out every possible scenario and then want specific instructions, and for some reason our consistent and simple answer seems to confuse them. But the only specific rule is that we won't vote for non-conservatives again. If it comes down to an election and there are only non-conservatives on the ballot, then we'll pencil in a worthy candidate.

Too many people incorrectly view this logic as fatalistic, or even suicidal. They've told us that we're going to bring about the ruination of America and that we'll never get away from creeping socialism. But they fail to see that by supporting non-conservatives such as RINOs that they've enabled creeping socialism to flourish more than anybody! All we're doing is adopting a principle and sticking to it. Yes. We know that it means "Win Big, or Lose Big", and we're good with that. We're NOT afraid. The GOP can bluster and blow and tell us that the sky will fall. We'll all get to see just how that works out very soon, and I'm guessing that it's not going to work out very well for them. 2010 will be interesting. I believe largely it will shape 2012.

These same people also tell us that we will be entirely RESPONSIBLE for the results of a thrown election because we penciled in our choices. I don't go along with this for a number of reasons. First and foremost is the principal of fair warning. Even if I were to do something which was aggressive, immoral and even criminal, but I were to give you fair and ample warning, do you bear any responsibility in thwarting my actions IF you are able? If you are able and you DON'T, then should you have? The voting scenario I envision isn't quite like this though. It's more a mass act of omission rather than one of commission. But it's still moronic for those clinging to the GOP RINOs to believe that WE bear any sort of blame for their leftist losing because we wouldn't support him/her.

In my view, RINO supporters are primarily responsible for creeping socialism (and other societal ills). Worse than this is that they're almost entirely motivated by fear. The proof of this is that once the primaries are over, they're scared to death to tell the GOP to pound sand, and then follow through with a penciled in vote, even if the nominee is a liberal/leftist! Yet, they cry foul at our mention of breaking from this and penciling somebody in? It's simply illogical. But that's the result of fearful people.

I've said before what Jim Rob STRONGLY indicated in this thread, and I'll say it again... Those who are motivated by fear should take notice of the information in this thread. They will soon need to decide which entity they fear more. Will they fear more that their RINO will lose to a slightly more leftward leaning person? Or will they fear us?

If they can simply put fear aside for a moment they would conclude that we're the ones they should fear. I don't know how else to explain it to them, but we're not messing around any more. If the GOP manages to propel RINOs through the process and onto voting ballots, the very worst fears of the fearful people I'm talking about will come true. They might think we're bluffing this time, because last time we gave in and supported McCain for Palin's sake. But this time we'll do no such thing.

People should go over the number of individuals in this thread who support my own particular manner of thought, and then ponder the number of people around them who also think this way. I believe that those in fear, along with the GOP are in for a disappointment in 2010 that can't be imagined at this point.

I hate to put it this way, but we're either going to take the nation back to conservatism and some semblance of the Republic it was originally intended to be, or we're going to take it straight to hell in an accelerated manner. It's not our desire that the nation fall to leftism, but in fair warning to all of those who doubt us, it will be the logical result should we fail. These in fear should bear in mind that incrementalism will be a hindsight by that point. I think that if we fail, the nation will change irreparably (short of something such as civil war) in only a few short election cycles.

Lastly, those who are too fearful to do anything other than support RINOs, even when that's all we're presented with by the GOP, should get the hell out of our way and simply permit us to do what's necessary. I've gotten to the point over the past 15 years or so where I despise cowards. I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate them. But I have no use for them. You can arm them with information, tools, weapons, training, and because they are a fearful coward they'll still do things such as support a RINO because the almighty GOP sticks one in front of them and threatens them with a possible DNC win if they don't support him! No matter how well you equip them, they still lose the fight. The logical action is to put them off to the side, or simply exclude them. They're harmful to any effort involving real risk and potential personal loss. They are an unacceptable liability and every bit as bad as the RINOs they support, albeit for slightly different reasons.

Cowards are worthless...in a military environment, on a baseball field, in parenting situations within the home, and in politics. But they go way below the level of being worthless to point their fingers at us and declare that what's coming will be our fault!

As I indicated before, they'll either get out of our way, stay out of our way and let us do what we need to do, or this nation is taking a short cut to hell. We'll make certain of it simply by ONLY supporting conservatives! If people don't understand these things, we simply can't help them.
1,849 posted on 11/28/2009 1:38:46 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: little jeremiah

Very well said, thank you! Compromise is why we are where we are. No amount of explaining and rehashing anything from rino supporters will change it.


1,850 posted on 11/28/2009 1:39:01 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

That’s spot on.


1,851 posted on 11/28/2009 1:41:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MestaMachine; Jim Robinson

It would be great if we could start such a thing on FR, with JimRob’s permission.


1,853 posted on 11/28/2009 1:42:53 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
keep our contributions in our pockets

...as if.

1,854 posted on 11/28/2009 1:45:14 PM PST by Cedric
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

The Tea Parties have sent a message. We need to keep sending it. They forget in between revolts and need to be reminded. I believe it needs to be a constant roar before they realize the anger ain’t going away.


1,855 posted on 11/28/2009 1:45:18 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Melas

“even FReeper understand how much more powerful the majority party is just because it’s a majority.”

Oh, we understand alright. When we worked ourselves sick to gain that majority, ONE RINO gave it all away. And when it was within our grasp again, RINOS like Trent Lott chose to “power share.” Your argument falls flat on the face of it.
I also don’t think most of us are all that much in love with the idea of a third party either. It seems to me that what we really want is to grab the reins of the one that was stolen from us.
Failing that, I am, for the first time, sensing that a third party CAN win if the platform is right and the PEOPLE unite and are serious. There has not been a serious attempt to build a third party. Attempts, but none that could gain any real traction.
This could be much different if the people in their comfort seats don’t wise up.


1,856 posted on 11/28/2009 1:45:22 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
I actually just read a post on another thread where the poster said they would vote for Obama before they would vote for another RINO.

McCain served his country, would never put our servicemen in unneeded peril, and had a solid pro-life voting record and is opposed to deficit spending but Obama is better. I don't get it and I think the quality of Free Republic posters is deteriorating.

1,857 posted on 11/28/2009 1:45:43 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

It’s going to take more than a pinch. More like a punch.


1,858 posted on 11/28/2009 1:45:52 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MestaMachine
There has not been a serious attempt to build a third party. Attempts, but none that could gain any real traction.

What does that tell ya?

Hello?

1,859 posted on 11/28/2009 1:48:47 PM PST by Cedric
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To: hiredhand

Yeah. What you said. :-)


1,860 posted on 11/28/2009 1:49:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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