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Free Republic does not and will not support RINOS!! Not now!! Not ever!!
My day after Thanksgiving message | 11/26/200 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/26/2009 9:55:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Apparently there are still some posters on FR who are fast asleep. Wake up! Dammit! We are in the middle of a conservative rebellion! While you were sleeping we, along with millions of other freedom loving grassroots Americans have participated in hundreds of tea parties all across this great land and fully intend to keep it up until all of America is awake. We are fed up and mad as hell! We grassroots Americans are delivering a message to the ruling class: NO MORE!!

No more big government! No more high taxes! No more government bailouts! No more government takeovers! No government healthcare! No more corruption! No more global baloneyism!!

We're sick and tired of liberals and RINOs running roughshod over our God given Liberty!

We want our country back! We want our freedom back! We want it all back!!

No more socialism!!

Cut the taxes! Cut the spending! Cut the government!

Restore the constitutional limits on government! Restore our freedom!!

And not only no, but HELL NO to liberals and RINOS!!

Free Republic will not support RINOS!! Rudy McRomney, et al, can go straight to hell!!

The strategy is we win, they lose.

Any questions?


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To: rintense

LOL!


1,801 posted on 11/28/2009 12:30:01 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: Cedric

LOL. Gotcha - you don’t even know who I am - how do you know Tiger doesn’t know me?

One can say anything on here, Tiger and I could be quite close...


1,802 posted on 11/28/2009 12:31:47 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: hiredhand

When I got to the scratching private parts I had to quit. LOL WOW


1,803 posted on 11/28/2009 12:32:42 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; hiredhand
When I got to the scratching private parts I had to quit. LOL WOW

Yeah, someone displaying pathological behavior and constantly mentioning private body parts on top of that. WOW doesn't even cover that...

1,804 posted on 11/28/2009 12:35:38 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Jim Robinson

An awful lot of CINO backers here who seem to think the only way to win is “big tent” “compromise” and “pragmatism,” despite the electoral disasters of 2006 and 2008. (I use CINO - conservative in name only - instead of RINO because the GOP is now largely CINO, so RINO is a misnomer.)

Been there, tried that, got us Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et al in charge, and along with it cap and trade, obamacare, devalued money, skyrocketing unemployment and debt, etc.

We want the GOP to purge the useless CINOs and believe it will make them stronger, not weaker. I propose the same thing for Free Republic. We won’t convince the CINO crowd and they weaken the community.

Mr. Robinson, it’s your site and your rules, but I see an opportunity to lead by example: How about zotting the CINO backers, the whole lot of ‘em?

The community will be smaller at first, but if we are right, we will quickly grow stronger and larger. If we don’t, then maybe we are wrong and the larger lesson is that we have to work with the CINOs, compromise, be “pragmatic,” etc. in the larger fight, too.

That said, I seriously doubt that we’re wrong.


1,805 posted on 11/28/2009 12:43:41 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2375429/posts
NY23 - The grassroots conservative Tea Party Rebellion wins a big one!! Open season on RINOS!!
Vanity | Oct 31, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2009 1:53:06 PM by Jim Robinson

Lots of organizations, groups, politicians, etc, are trying to take credit for knocking out the RINO in this race, but the real credit goes to the millions of grassroots conservatives all across this great land who have loudly declared they are fed up and are not going to take it anymore!!

The grassroots conservative Tea Party Rebellion wins a big one!!

Congratulations to everyone in the movement!!

Keep making those calls, writing those letters, attending those Tea Parties and loudly voicing your desire for constitutionally limited government and FREEDOM!!

We CAN change it back!!

When the people fear the government, we have tyranny. When the government fears the people, we have LIBERTY!!

DONT TREAD ON ME!!

Rebellion is brewing!!

Keep your powder dry.


1,807 posted on 11/28/2009 12:44:43 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: Peter Horry

That is the first time I have ever seen anyone recommend se Texas...esp over the Hill Country. God’s country. A myriad of reasons I have to not recomment the SE Texas area. Why do you say that please?


1,808 posted on 11/28/2009 12:45:02 PM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: bcsco

I’m here to enforce the foundational Free Republic principles of truth, accuracy and, above all, integrity!


1,809 posted on 11/28/2009 12:51:03 PM PST by Cedric
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To: piytar

Sorry for the double post - BlackBerry said the first one failed. Sigh.


1,810 posted on 11/28/2009 12:54:52 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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Are you an

Michelle Malkin
The bad news is that a lot of conservatives aren’t happy about the pro-bailout, pro-amnesty Republican, but feel they have to hold their nose and vote for him. Ugh. I thought those days were over.

1,811 posted on 11/28/2009 12:55:23 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: ozarkgirl
How many successful, national, elective office campaigns have you been in charge of?

I directed the above cited, rhetorical question to you because you deigned to condescendingly deride the ineptitude of the GOP leadership regarding a field of endeavor in which I suspected you had no personal, first hand experience.

1,812 posted on 11/28/2009 12:57:09 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

Neither does the current GOP leadership. You did include the word successful.


1,813 posted on 11/28/2009 1:00:14 PM PST by John W (The more predictable we are, the more vulnerable we are.)
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To: Jim Robinson

NO RINOs!

I am convinced that, in a three-way race between a 3rd-party patriot, a RINO and the Kenyan Usurper, the PATRIOT would win, the Kenyan would come in second and the RINO would end up in third place.


1,814 posted on 11/28/2009 1:02:36 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: Cedric

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2395726/posts


1,815 posted on 11/28/2009 1:04:35 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (The 1st Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the govt. Thats my story..I'm sticking to it:Mestamachine)
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To: Cedric; ozarkgirl; Conservativegreatgrandma
I directed the above cited, rhetorical question to you because you deigned to condescendingly deride the ineptitude of the GOP leadership regarding a field of endeavor in which I suspected you had no personal, first hand experience.

You mean, just as Conservativegreatgrandma did in this post as well as others yesterday?

To: rintense
You cannot find one place where I advocated voting for Scozzy so please listen to me carefully--AGAIN.

I NEVER said ANYONE should have voted for her--EVER!!

Are you paying attention? NEVER!!!!

I have REPEATEDLY said this situation was so extreme that there are no lessons to be learned here because the likelihood of it being repeated are remote.

I have many times said (are you listening?) that those responsible for this debacle are the grassroots Republicans in the district who voted for the 11 county chairs who chose Scozzy.

The woman was a disaster The whole chain of events was totally weird with NO lessons to be learned from it.

Now do you understand? Again, I NEVER SAID TO VOTE FOR SCOZZY OR THAT I WOULD HAVE!!! GOT IT??

Now, are you man enough to apologize?

1,696 posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:10:53 PM by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)

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Rather unhelpful to Conservativegreatgrandma's efforts, I'd say...

1,816 posted on 11/28/2009 1:06:43 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

The irony of NY23 is that the GOP ran the insider “pragmatic” RINO choice, in keeping with the apparent philosophy of Mr. “I’ve Run National Campaigns” and othe CINOs up thread. That’s why the donk won (or maybe not - still may be contested). If the GOP would have run the “small tent” “too conservative” Hoffman (who sadly does have the personal charisma of a door knob, sorry, but it’s true) as we are advocating, the GOP would have won. Easily.

The CINO “big tent” types just don’t see that. This same scenario has been played out again and again and again, but they are blind to it. It’s cognitive dissonance of the type so prevalent on the left. That makes sense since GOP CINOs are just weak statists vs donk strong ones, and a statist mindset requires a healthy does of cognitive dissonance (or complete power-mad narcissism with the expectation of absolute power through the state).


1,817 posted on 11/28/2009 1:06:59 PM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Compromise for leftists means conservatives give up on core principles and leftists gain some of their agenda.

Compromise for conservatives means conservatives give up on core principles and leftists gain some of their agenda.

That’s the beginning, middle and end of “compromise”.

The deal is this: Lefist beliefs, goals, principles (sic), tactics and every piece of their agenda is Evil with a capital E. They cheat, lie, steal, kill and do anything they can do to reach their goal, which is, in short, utter ruin of everything good and worthy.

Compromise to them means taking three steps forward and one back.

Compromise for conservatives means being pushed closer and closer to the edge of the cliff. It is death slowly instead of all at once.

I am SICK AND TIRED of the RNC, the GOP, and almost every Republican in office at this point. And I’ve voted for the lesser of two evils for too many g.d. years. Where did this get us? McCain who is insane and threw the election.


1,818 posted on 11/28/2009 1:09:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Better than anyone else I have seen suggested so far.


1,819 posted on 11/28/2009 1:09:53 PM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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To: ozarkgirl

When I first joined Free Republic, I had a one month old baby. I spent most of the first eight months on the state message board making the some of the same arguments I’ve seen here from what I believed was a Conservative point of view.
We HAD to vote for mcsnipe to stay alive to fight another day. I fought that battle and actually believed it, until, after a few months of mcsnipe posturing, his humiliation of the radio host who used bam’s middle name, his absolute refusal to even try to mount a robust campaign, and finally his kiss on the cheek to bill clinton on his way to pass the tarp package, and I knew we had been set up for the ultimate betrayal.
I could never again, in good conscience, ask anyone I knew to vote for him. I could never again defend GW Bush for campaigning for Specter over Toomey because it was “best” for the party to keep a sure r.
I could not, in good conscience, defend party politics as usual at all. And I will never, ever do it again.
There were a lot of people on my state message board who were on my side then. Some of them wanted to take it off the state board and onto the forum. I had all the “right” arguments. I was an overnight hero. EXCEPT, I was DEAD WRONG!!!
There was a poster there who was saying then what I am saying now, what most of us on this thread are saying now. I fought him tooth and nail. I went back on the state board and apologized to him. He was right. I was wrong.
It can’t be politics as usual. There is too much at stake.
Those who refuse to learn the lessons of this past election, whether it’s party loyalty, or belief that anything is “better” than what we have now, are missing the forest for the trees. That attitude is why we are at this crossroads now. That attitude is what has brought us defeat after defeat, yet they persist.
I do not desire to see my almost two year old pay for these obvious mistakes in judgement by some who choose to go along to get along, taking cookie crumbs from the political table and calling it a win. She doesn’t deserve that. She will have the whole cookie,or I will breathe my last breath trying to make sure she does.


1,820 posted on 11/28/2009 1:10:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: ozarkgirl
how do you know Tiger doesn’t know me?

Tiger has an astounding memory. He would remember you if the two of you had ever met.

1,821 posted on 11/28/2009 1:12:14 PM PST by Cedric
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To: piytar

Actually, if it hadn’t been for the 6K + votes RINO Scozzafava got, Hoffman would have run. The election was certified with him just 3K + votes behind the Democrat. Hoffman is a conservative, but he ran on the Independent ticket because the GOP dorks decided to run Scozzafava instead. That’s what this Republican over everyone got them in New York, and it’s what it will get us nationwide. It’s dumb, it’s stupid and it’s what will keep Democrats in power. And I’m beginning to believe it’s exactly what Cedric, Conservativegreatgrandma and others on this forum who favor Republican only votes want.


1,822 posted on 11/28/2009 1:13:10 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Really?


1,823 posted on 11/28/2009 1:13:15 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'm from TEXAS -- what country are YOU from?)
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To: Cedric

Wow, does that ever sound familiar. Buckeyes and bullseyes much?


1,824 posted on 11/28/2009 1:14:34 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: John W

NJ & VA: Scoreboard, baby!


1,825 posted on 11/28/2009 1:15:40 PM PST by Cedric
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To: bcsco
And I’m beginning to believe it’s exactly what Cedric, Conservativegreatgrandma and others on this forum who favor Republican only votes want.

Correction, it's what you want to believe because it makes it easier for you to discredit the above. I'm certainly in that camp as I refuse to vote 3rd party. Make no mistakes, it's not because I want to see a democrat in office, but because I believe that 3rd parties are spoilers.

1,826 posted on 11/28/2009 1:16:57 PM PST by Melas
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To: MestaMachine; ~Kim4VRWC's~
I wish that we could mount a letter campaign the size of the tea parties, putting the RNC and Steele on notice that we will stay home on election day and keep our contributions in our pockets unless they field and back reliable Conservatives instead of the likes of Scozzafava, McCain, Snowe, the turncoat Specter etc. I really feel we need to serve notice and tell them that we are serious.
1,827 posted on 11/28/2009 1:18:00 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Melas
Correction...

You're correcting nothing because I choose not to believe you.

1,828 posted on 11/28/2009 1:18:25 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2392371/posts

The Republican party wonders why conservatives are so disappointed with it?

Another glowing example of the problems confronting the Republican party occurred yesterday. The Senate Republicans had the opportunity to force a full reading of the Senate’s proposed health care bill so that every bit of the 2,200 pages would be made public by the reading, and so the people could become much better informed about its contents before it is passed...if it is passed. It had the opportunity to really hold the Democrats’ feet to the fire over this abominable excuse for legislation that is being crammed down the throats of a majority of Americans who want no part of it. if nothing else, this delaying tactic would’ve served to cause more focus on those who were about to vote “Yes” to move this bill from Committee.

The Republicans decided that they wanted to go home for the Thanksgiving recess of the Senate more than they wanted to fulfill their obligations to those who elected them to serve in the Senate. Pure and simple! They ignored the Senate rules that could’ve been brought to bear on behalf of the citizens they represent. They threw in the towel rather than spend a week-end in Washington, D.C. fighting the good fight. They, being in the minority, threw in the towel over something that would’ve let them at least assert their rights as a minority. They could’ve tried to change just one Democrat or Independent mind and thus prevent the bill from even being debated. Had it not been debated, the entire health care reform effort would’ve been shut down.

Conservatives are rightly angered by this latest slap in the face from the party that is supposedly keeping its eye on the majority. Michael Steele makes noises as if he is conservative but he fails to influence the party leaders in the grand old “club” we call the Senate to stay and fight for the principles important to conservatives. The leaders of the Senate Republicans like to make believe they’re conservative, but their actions seem to decry that.


1,829 posted on 11/28/2009 1:18:37 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

How many times are you gonna dishonestly promise to quit?


1,830 posted on 11/28/2009 1:19:45 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Cedric

National? Your word, not mine. And, those weren’t.


1,831 posted on 11/28/2009 1:19:45 PM PST by John W (The more predictable we are, the more vulnerable we are.)
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To: B-Chan

European American? what?


1,832 posted on 11/28/2009 1:20:21 PM PST by DallasSun (i believe in separation of church and hate.)
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TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2393476/posts
Tea Party react: Conservatives seek litmus test for RNC funding
Washington Times ^ | 11/24/2009 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:59:09 AM by markomalley

Eager to ensure that “tea partiers” don’t undermine GOP candidates, conservative members of the Republican National Committee are pursuing the creation of a rule that would bar the Republican Party from funding candidates who fail a conservative litmus test.

The group is circulating a petition among committee members that would enshrine former President Ronald Reagan’s proposition that his 80 percent friend was not his 20 percent enemy. The rule would require Republican candidates to share at least 80 percent of the party’s main tenets to be eligible for party aid.


1,833 posted on 11/28/2009 1:21:07 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: John W

Good point.


1,834 posted on 11/28/2009 1:21:07 PM PST by Cedric
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To: piytar

Just get rid of anyone who dares to disagree with you? How very soviet of you. The sad thing is that you honestly believe that’s the conservative position. Words fail.


1,835 posted on 11/28/2009 1:21:20 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas
Ya might wanna don the fire retardant garments; here it comes!
1,836 posted on 11/28/2009 1:23:55 PM PST by Cedric
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http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/bye_bye_rino.html

The conservatives are winning — but the RINOs are not being gracious in defeat. Now the RINOs are showing how much party unity means to them. They have no loyalty to conservatives, so why should conservatives have any loyalty to them?

The latest showdown came when ultra-liberal State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava became the Republican candidate in NY-23. ACORN’s racketeering arm, also known as the Working Families Party, backed her. Yet the Republican old guard also backed this useful idiot. Newt Gingrich backed this tool. The name “Republican” was all that mattered to them. Not principle.

But Sarah Palin, a true conservative, instead endorsed Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. And so did other conservatives. Governor of Texas Rick Perry said, “Electing Doug Hoffman will send a clear message that cannot be denied: conservatives must stand on principle.” Oklahoma gubernatorial candidate Mary Fallin said that Hoffman had “reminded Americans everywhere that principles come before party affiliation.” Kansas senatorial candidate Todd Tiahrt explained the choice: “The Republican Party is either going to return to the party of fiscal responsibility and consistent conservative principles as it was under Ronald Reagan, or it will continue down the path of ‘sporadic moderation.’”


1,837 posted on 11/28/2009 1:25:31 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: bcsco

Yeah, I have an 8 year posting history of Republican support and you choose not to believe me. That makes sense.


1,838 posted on 11/28/2009 1:25:35 PM PST by Melas
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To: DJ MacWoW
From the americanthinker link..

"...The conservatives are winning — but the RINOs are not being gracious in defeat. Now the RINOs are showing how much party unity means to them. They have no loyalty to conservatives, so why should conservatives have any loyalty to them? ..."

1,839 posted on 11/28/2009 1:28:07 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: Cedric

I’m not particularly worried about it, since I’m not getting personal with anyone. You could learn by that example. From where I sit you’re being condescending and snide while decrying those you’re disagreeing with for doing the same thing. I know that most of the folks who’re calling for purges et al, are doing so out of frustration, and not malice.


1,840 posted on 11/28/2009 1:28:29 PM PST by Melas
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have done that as an individual, but a campaign such as you suggest would be profound. REAL letters from real people that they could not possibly ignore.
Why don’t we?


1,841 posted on 11/28/2009 1:28:33 PM PST by MestaMachine (The First Thanksgiving was to THANK GOD, not the government. Thats my story and Im sticking to it)
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To: Melas

Sit somewhere else.


1,842 posted on 11/28/2009 1:30:52 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Melas; piytar

While I can understand piytar’s sentiment, I don’t concur with his recommendation. I frankly like having your libtards around. You show with every post how far the GOP has fallen in public esteem, and more importantly, why.

You are the voice of doom. You are socialist to the core. You, who mime conservative values and freedom, are willing to destroy every vestige of freedom we have for the sake of party over country. You want politics as usual, when politics as usual is what got us to this disgusting state of affairs in the first place. You have no ounce of fight, no vestige of honor for flag no country in you. When the fight really comes it will be you who are cowering in your homes, your basements and behind your women.

And that’s why I’m glad to have you stick around. The more you rant, the more people see you for what you are.


1,843 posted on 11/28/2009 1:32:41 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I especially think this is relates to the subject matter

AROO=Any Republican Over Obama.. LOL
Do we actually want the rinos to think they have it made because of obama? This is just my opinion. I really am not sure the letters and phone calls matter anymore. We called, wrote emails, letters and attended tea parties. Did they listen? They must really feel secure in their positions.

From the americanthinker link..

"...We all sucked it up. We went along. We embraced the ticket in the spirit of AROO (Any Republican Over Obama), and we held our noses until Sarah Palin came along. Ah, just a spoonful of Sarah helped the medicine go down. ? ..."

1,844 posted on 11/28/2009 1:34:03 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: Melas

Thank you..


1,845 posted on 11/28/2009 1:34:43 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: DJ MacWoW; MestaMachine

Do you think it’ll work.. I have a feeling they are already feeling the pinch a bit..


1,846 posted on 11/28/2009 1:36:30 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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To: Melas
I frankly like having your libtards around.

That's where equanimity get ya, around here.

1,847 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:02 PM PST by Cedric
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To: bcsco
You are socialist to the core.

Let's just address this one point, since you've charged me with it. Show me where I have ever made a single post that could even be remotely skewed as even mildly socialist? I'm nothing if not an avowed capitalist. I have never in my FR posting history advocated anything short of smaller government, lower taxes and the subsequent reductions in government spending. Your charge is thoroughly baseless, or an outright lie, only you know which one applies.

1,848 posted on 11/28/2009 1:37:50 PM PST by Melas
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To: DJ MacWoW; ~Kim4VRWC's~
It has been a good thread with some very succinct posts.

It's been vindicating to read Jim Rob's postings in this thread which essentially mirror what myself and more than few others have consistently said in recent past. It's a concept that people seem to have trouble with for some reason. But it's very simple. It states that we won't vote for, or support NON-CONSERVATIVES; plain and simple. Whether they be RINOs, or dems, or little green men with flower pots on their heads! If they aren't conservatives, we aren't supporting them.

People who have seen this from us in the past try to read into it and then ask all the same goofy questions they've been asking here in this thread. They ask for us to play out every possible scenario and then want specific instructions, and for some reason our consistent and simple answer seems to confuse them. But the only specific rule is that we won't vote for non-conservatives again. If it comes down to an election and there are only non-conservatives on the ballot, then we'll pencil in a worthy candidate.

Too many people incorrectly view this logic as fatalistic, or even suicidal. They've told us that we're going to bring about the ruination of America and that we'll never get away from creeping socialism. But they fail to see that by supporting non-conservatives such as RINOs that they've enabled creeping socialism to flourish more than anybody! All we're doing is adopting a principle and sticking to it. Yes. We know that it means "Win Big, or Lose Big", and we're good with that. We're NOT afraid. The GOP can bluster and blow and tell us that the sky will fall. We'll all get to see just how that works out very soon, and I'm guessing that it's not going to work out very well for them. 2010 will be interesting. I believe largely it will shape 2012.

These same people also tell us that we will be entirely RESPONSIBLE for the results of a thrown election because we penciled in our choices. I don't go along with this for a number of reasons. First and foremost is the principal of fair warning. Even if I were to do something which was aggressive, immoral and even criminal, but I were to give you fair and ample warning, do you bear any responsibility in thwarting my actions IF you are able? If you are able and you DON'T, then should you have? The voting scenario I envision isn't quite like this though. It's more a mass act of omission rather than one of commission. But it's still moronic for those clinging to the GOP RINOs to believe that WE bear any sort of blame for their leftist losing because we wouldn't support him/her.

In my view, RINO supporters are primarily responsible for creeping socialism (and other societal ills). Worse than this is that they're almost entirely motivated by fear. The proof of this is that once the primaries are over, they're scared to death to tell the GOP to pound sand, and then follow through with a penciled in vote, even if the nominee is a liberal/leftist! Yet, they cry foul at our mention of breaking from this and penciling somebody in? It's simply illogical. But that's the result of fearful people.

I've said before what Jim Rob STRONGLY indicated in this thread, and I'll say it again... Those who are motivated by fear should take notice of the information in this thread. They will soon need to decide which entity they fear more. Will they fear more that their RINO will lose to a slightly more leftward leaning person? Or will they fear us?

If they can simply put fear aside for a moment they would conclude that we're the ones they should fear. I don't know how else to explain it to them, but we're not messing around any more. If the GOP manages to propel RINOs through the process and onto voting ballots, the very worst fears of the fearful people I'm talking about will come true. They might think we're bluffing this time, because last time we gave in and supported McCain for Palin's sake. But this time we'll do no such thing.

People should go over the number of individuals in this thread who support my own particular manner of thought, and then ponder the number of people around them who also think this way. I believe that those in fear, along with the GOP are in for a disappointment in 2010 that can't be imagined at this point.

I hate to put it this way, but we're either going to take the nation back to conservatism and some semblance of the Republic it was originally intended to be, or we're going to take it straight to hell in an accelerated manner. It's not our desire that the nation fall to leftism, but in fair warning to all of those who doubt us, it will be the logical result should we fail. These in fear should bear in mind that incrementalism will be a hindsight by that point. I think that if we fail, the nation will change irreparably (short of something such as civil war) in only a few short election cycles.

Lastly, those who are too fearful to do anything other than support RINOs, even when that's all we're presented with by the GOP, should get the hell out of our way and simply permit us to do what's necessary. I've gotten to the point over the past 15 years or so where I despise cowards. I wouldn't go so far as to say I hate them. But I have no use for them. You can arm them with information, tools, weapons, training, and because they are a fearful coward they'll still do things such as support a RINO because the almighty GOP sticks one in front of them and threatens them with a possible DNC win if they don't support him! No matter how well you equip them, they still lose the fight. The logical action is to put them off to the side, or simply exclude them. They're harmful to any effort involving real risk and potential personal loss. They are an unacceptable liability and every bit as bad as the RINOs they support, albeit for slightly different reasons.

Cowards are worthless...in a military environment, on a baseball field, in parenting situations within the home, and in politics. But they go way below the level of being worthless to point their fingers at us and declare that what's coming will be our fault!

As I indicated before, they'll either get out of our way, stay out of our way and let us do what we need to do, or this nation is taking a short cut to hell. We'll make certain of it simply by ONLY supporting conservatives! If people don't understand these things, we simply can't help them.
1,849 posted on 11/28/2009 1:38:46 PM PST by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: little jeremiah

Very well said, thank you! Compromise is why we are where we are. No amount of explaining and rehashing anything from rino supporters will change it.


1,850 posted on 11/28/2009 1:39:01 PM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I love God, my family & my country..........vote conservative..........Please pray for our soldiers)
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