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New IRA terror group forms
IrishCentral.com ^ | 12/13/2009 | Patrick Roberts

Posted on 12/13/2009 2:46:48 PM PST by noozguy1

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To: grand wazoo

not mentioned them because we’re not talking about them, the thread is not about them it is about the cowards called the ira

even an Irish poster has told you that you’re wrong

you’re very misinformed about a terrorist group who has killed many people

I’ll ask again do you support these scumbags?
do you think what they did was right?

BTW There is a splinter group which has not denounced violence .

Do you have any idea what it is like over there?
People who live in fear, people cannot even talk to the police or say hello .
they can’t even join the police if they’re catholic back then when I was over there.

Everyone knows who they are and what they do but are too afraid to say anything.

All these cowards are about is drugs, guns and money /power.
do you honestly think that they are some form of an army?

They have planted bombs are memorials, burger places, pubs, buses, shops, gas stations etc
They have killed people just because they gave a soldier candy

If you support these terrorist then I suggest you go to the derrybegs of newry or the barcroft estate and see how many live in fear of a few terrorists.
See the power these cowards have but then hide when the soldiers came

Bush ended their game when he cut the money off from 9/11 and good for him.

Don’;t forget the INLA too and how they killed others who they never liked.


81 posted on 12/13/2009 5:46:58 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: buccaneer81
The IRA was originally formed (1960s IRA)

What a load. You were around before 1922.

You are an ignoramus that is trying to twist my words. The IRA that existed in the 1910-1920 era is a totally separate entity from the group that was formed in 1969. I was referring to the Provisional IRA, established to protect the Catholics in the north from the British army. The Provisional IRA is what we commonly know as the IRA. Michael Collins, the Easter Uprising, the Irish War for Independence, the Irish Civil War, all of that stuff has nothing to do with we commonly refer to as the IRA.

82 posted on 12/13/2009 5:53:59 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

what don’t you understand?

The majority in the south do not want the north for a number of reason but mainly the troubles and money it will bring to their country.
The majority in the north do not want the south.

The UK policy is that if the majority want us there we will stay there.
fair enough.

But I am still thinking that you are very misguided over a terrorist group.
What exactly do you think they are about?


83 posted on 12/13/2009 5:54:29 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: grand wazoo

of course the easter uprisings etc are connected to the ira

again
it was catholics that wanted the British army there, the very same British army which is now helping us in out two wars

do you understand that the majority in the north and the south do not like the ira?


84 posted on 12/13/2009 5:57:07 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: grand wazoo
Again, Bravo Sierra.

You're no better than CAIR and other supporters of terrorism.

85 posted on 12/13/2009 5:58:24 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: manc
even an Irish poster has told you that you’re wrong

I disagree with his opinion. I have been over there multiple times. I think that most people (in the US and Ireland) agree with me.

Do you have any idea what it is like over there? People who live in fear, people cannot even talk to the police or say hello . they can’t even join the police if they’re catholic back then when I was over there. Everyone knows who they are and what they do but are too afraid to say anything.

Please, more people die on a warm weekend in Chicago than will ever be killed by these guys. Anybody that lives in fear of these guys wouldn't last a week in any American big city.

Like I wrote earlier, you are an agent provocateur attempting to incite anger and hatred over nothing.

86 posted on 12/13/2009 6:12:23 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

You are so full of crap (and yourself.)


87 posted on 12/13/2009 6:16:40 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: grand wazoo

no most people over there do not support the ira at all.

they’re known as knuckle dragging cavemen who are just a bunch of thugs

Like I said go to places like the barcroft estate in Newry or the derrybegs.
go to coalisland or the falls. Go to crossmaglen and you’ll see how much terror these cowards cause.

Talking or even saying hello to a cop means getting kneecapped. that is shooting you in the back of the knee so your knee at the front will get all smashed out.

You have not yet said if you support these scumbags so I’ll ask again.
do you support them and do you think they are right in the methods?

As for more people dying that might be true but I believe the population of chicago is a lot more than the north of Ireland but I will stand to be corrected on that.
It is not just death they fear but also how they can and will be punished.

they are a group who train with the FARC, a left wing group in columbia sponsered by chavez.
They have ties to Libya and the middle east or the PLO.

They have killed innocent women and children the last big bomb I believe was the memorial where people went to honor the dead.

and now most people over here and over there do not agree with with supporting a terrorist group like Bush never

You need to understand what you support if you do support these scumbag drug dealing killers.
They have always been on the other side to us while the Brits have been helping us in two wars.

Do you have an hatred or the Brits even though they helm us?


88 posted on 12/13/2009 6:22:06 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: grand wazoo

You are so 1970s. America has finally figured out that the IRA, by whatever name, are the bad guys and no different from the South American drug peddlers they trained in their methods. Sounds like you have never lived over there. Many of us a still celebrating the death of Ted Kennedy, please be more considerate.


89 posted on 12/13/2009 6:22:27 PM PST by balls (Sarah, get off your facebook and do something!)
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To: balls

Most excellent post!


90 posted on 12/13/2009 6:25:58 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: manc
of course the easter uprisings etc are connected to the ira

The Easter Rising has nothing to do with the current IRA as Americans know it. The IRA involved in the Easter Rising was descended from the Irish Volunteers established in response to the Ulster Volunteers. The Ulster Volunteers were established and supported by the British government to prevent home rule (by any means necessary) in Ireland. The IRA of the early 1900s was a legitimate army with over 100,000 soldiers.

The IRA today is a northern Ireland paramilitary group established in 1969. Now I don't agree with their Marxist tendencies or all of their methods, but the fact of the matter is that they are not the same as the IRA from the Easter Rising. This group was established to defend Irish Catholics in the north from the British army and protestant paramilitary groups. Plus, they have renounced violence as a means to achieve their desired goal which is a united Ireland.

the very same British army which is now helping us in out two wars

It's the least they can do after we bailed them out of two world wars. Judging by the numbers of troops and money they have invested, I'd say they are doing the bare minimum.

91 posted on 12/13/2009 6:41:29 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: buccaneer81; manc

I was not speaking specifically about the IRA (I know very little about them specifically). I was just saying that I can understand that sometimes the use of violence is a valid tactic - just not violence perpetrated against the innocent.


92 posted on 12/13/2009 6:49:15 PM PST by The Duke (Socialism is cool until somebody loses their paycheck.)
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To: manc
no most people over there do not support the ira at all.

I never said they did. I said that most people support reunification. Is English your second language?

Do you have an hatred or the Brits even though they helm us?

Throughout our history, the British have been far more trouble than they are worth. We would be better off without their "help".

93 posted on 12/13/2009 6:50:23 PM PST by grand wazoo
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To: grand wazoo

it’s the least they can do
WHAT??

They have lost many men and women helping us, also it was Britain who stood alone for years before we joined the war and if Pearl harbor had never happened we would not have gone to war I think but that is debatable .

the sumbags were formed and tough todays ira is not the same obviously they have still the same agenda.

what you seem to not understand is that they are a terrorist group.
What you need to ask yourself is do you support a terrorist group which has killed many innocent people with their bombs or maimed even more.

AGAIN
it was the catholics who wanted the Brit army in to protect them and so the army went in,.
The ira saw that there was a threat to their way of money and life.power.

it is not an army , they never have worn any uniform but blend in with the innocents.

If you support these scum bags then right but you’re a small minority over here and over there.

Where did you go over there as I know the area very well?


94 posted on 12/13/2009 6:53:26 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: grand wazoo

the Brits have been trouble for us and we’re better off with out them.

Now you’re either a wind up or totally clueless.

I’m guessing you have never been in the military then.

I have and they are by far one of the best military units around and are a great help to us .

You support the a cowardly terrorist group and yet don’t want our best ally the UK to help us in our two wars.

ASTOUNDING

How many tinmes do I have to keep saying this to you.
No they don’t support thew two countries joining together over there.

Do you even know what you’re saying on this thread?

You support a terrorist group, do you understand that?
a terrorist group who has killed many people for no reason, who has worked with south American drug and groups like the left wing FARC .


95 posted on 12/13/2009 6:59:54 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: buccaneer81
If I said what I really want to, I'd be banned.

Ditto. The IRA used Catholicism as a cover for their hard-core Marxist agenda.

96 posted on 12/13/2009 7:03:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cuchulain

The IRA supports Muslim terrorists.

97 posted on 12/13/2009 7:06:35 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: grand wazoo
It's the least they can do after we bailed them out of two world wars.

And your beloved Irish were "neutral" right?

No, you were German opportunists in both wars.

Scumbags.

98 posted on 12/13/2009 7:07:00 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: grand wazoo
The IRA of the early 1900s was a legitimate army with over 100,000 soldiers.

Keep on lying. You're just digging a deeper hole.

99 posted on 12/13/2009 7:09:14 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: dfwgator

those kind of paintings on houses were very common when I was over there.
to be fair on both sides but what the ira did was use their religion to mask their Marxist agenda and the to do their drugs, protection, scams,

the killings and beatings they sued were to keep their power going.

It’s s shame that some fed into this but now it seems more and more are waking up to their terrorist activities .

After 9.11 there money disappeared and then they were forced to call a truce. Course they still wanted money thus the big bank robbery they did a short time after.


100 posted on 12/13/2009 7:12:25 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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