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To: 3catsanadog
This is why they WILL install a Value Added Tax(VAT) on all raw materials, manufactured goods, food, clothing, water, electricity, etc. That, on top of Corporate taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, luxury taxes, death taxes, on and on and on.......

the Government will declare an end to the “old broken” capitalist system and simply start all over under a complete government system. All corporations and all people will work for the government. It will become a National Socialism. the national debt will be declared void. They will print new currency and back it with all the added valued assets of the corporations they seize, all the property that we once held in private hands will become the property of the collective national treasury. We will no longer own our land. We will pay the government to use it and produce from it.

They will monitor everyone and everything. The Soviets did this as did the Maoist Chinese. Of course it will not work, but it will be tried again.

This explains why they are knowingly and willingly tearing down the free enterprise system, as well as, demonizing the Capitalist system. This clearly explains why all these Czars in the White House and the President's cabinet are made up entirely of this kind of Marxist/Communist/Socialist. They plan on combining all 3 forms of government.

All I can say is, I DO hope that the system will crash much sooner than they can get a permanent foothold on their above described agenda. But we have very little time to stop them. We are close to losing it permanently.

539 posted on 12/20/2009 8:40:29 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

We are close to losing it permanently.
Yes we are ..and that is why we need to stop the discussion and
DECIDE ON A PLAN !


547 posted on 12/20/2009 8:55:18 AM PST by sonic109 (and...what are we going to do about it ? NOTHING ?..so shut up and take it !)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Here's some free advice: drink less coffee. Discard the emotional reactions and think logically. What are the incontrovertible facts?

Why was TARP passed last year despite massive opposition? Because if Congress hadn't bailed out the banks, the US would have suffered a 30%+ contraction in GDP. That means all levels of government, ranging from Leviathan all the way down to the smallest districts, would have gone bankrupt.

No more pensions. No more gov't jobs. No more welfare. School closures. Food shortages. In short, chaos.

So what was achieved by going "all in" to the tune of $12 trillion dollars in expenditures/commitments? One year. That's all they got, one lousy year! Now there's no more money in the kitty; there aren't any more buyers of debt. All they will be able to do is print. So here it comes again, round II, and boy, will it be a doozy.

You think "they" will go for a complete power grab. Let me ask you a question: how do they finance it (ie pay their "employees")? With freshly printed pieces of toilet paper aka 'dollar bills'? Har, har. The erstwhile enforcers will have enough problems on their hands trying to get their own families fed & protected.

Here's how it plays out in real simple terms. We don't produce enough real wealth to afford our military. Faced with this reality, they will have no other choice but to make their move. They will have to disband almost all forms of fed gov't like welfare, UI, food stamps, SS, etc, and be forced to allow the states to go their own way(s). There will be an opt-in to form a new union to provide mutual protection.

The states will resume their natural legitimacy. We will be right back where we started in 1786 with a loose alliance of regional 'colonies' who will have to determine to what extent they wish to organize. We will see a return to regional/state currency, taxation & trade.

There are simply not enough resources to hold the center. We will come apart just like the USSR. We cannot fight (nor do we want to) the iron clad rules of nature.

555 posted on 12/20/2009 9:08:10 AM PST by semantic
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