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Grand jury investigating state Sen. Jane Orie (PA)
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | 12/23/09 | Dennis B. Roddy

Posted on 12/23/2009 9:32:53 PM PST by Born Conservative

An Allegheny County grand jury has opened a criminal investigation into State Sen. Jane Clare Orie, R-McCandless, the state senate's third-ranking Republican, and detectives last week seized computers from her district office.

The investigation, confirmed tonight by Jerry McDevitt, who is representing Ms. Orie, apparently began a day before the November election when an intern at the senator's district office in the North Hills complained to the district attorney's office that political calls were being made there on behalf of state Supreme Court nominee Joan Orie Melvin, the senator's sister.

On Friday, detectives executed a search warrant at Ms. Orie's district office at the La Casa Blanca Building on McKnight Road. Earlier in the month, detectives had placed Ms. Orie's office under surveillance, Mr. McDevitt said.

He also complained that, at one juncture, investigators had followed his client to church.

"It was pretty much a computer raid," Mr. McDevitt said. He said detectives seized computers assigned to office staff, several laptops and the office computer server, leaving Ms. Orie's own computer in place.

Sources with first-hand knowledge of the inquiry said the office has received complaints of fundraising and other political calls from the senator's district office. Additionally, a college intern brought complaints of improper political activity.

Last night, Mr. McDevitt, a high-profile criminal defense attorney who successfully fought back a massive indictment against former Coroner Cyril H. Wecht, said the investigation into Ms. Orie is itself a political act.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: janeorie; joanoriemelvin

1 posted on 12/23/2009 9:32:53 PM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

Finally. A crooked politician the state-run media can get curious about.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 9:39:06 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Steely Tom

Oh my, a politician fundraising from her office...I’m completely shocked, meanwhile, politicians in Washington are completely trashing the Constitution and nary a yawn from the media.


3 posted on 12/23/2009 9:40:48 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Born Conservative
"The investigation, confirmed tonight by Jerry McDevitt, who is representing Ms. Orie, apparently began a day before the November election when an intern at the senator's district office in the North Hills complained to the district attorney's office that political calls were being made there on behalf of state Supreme Court nominee Joan Orie Melvin, the senator's sister."

Political calls from a State Senator in her own office. That is supposed to be a crime? What the do they think a politician does in a politician's office? And since when is making a phone call a crime? How shamelessly ridiculous!

After reading the article further it became clear why this is happening to her --- a Republican prosecutor has got the goods on two Democrat Party crooks in the State legislature and the RATS want to distract the public's attention with this phony nonsense. Incredible.

4 posted on 12/23/2009 9:51:46 PM PST by StormEye
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To: Born Conservative

Odd how they can jump right in their when they are Republicans; but sweep under the rug when it’s a democrat.

No more free rides.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 10:02:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: StormEye

Yep, this is Pittsburgh politics at its finest. We have a one party system here and they are out for revenge after bonusgate
and other crooked machinations by mostly demo-rat legislators.
They attacked Santorum for using a home in Penn Hills (that he owned) to get specialized schooling for his daughters, which was a common and perfectly accepted practice. The Bolshevik fish wrap Post Gazette is the party organ here for the peoples party.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 10:07:56 PM PST by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: Born Conservative

Bet the dems were getting bored waiting and waiting for some serious issue to arise to make them look squeaky clean.


7 posted on 12/23/2009 11:15:58 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: roughman

If I remember correctly, the home was owned by his in laws and he actually lived in Virginia. He wanted the district to pay for the cyber school education of his kids, the cost of which amounted to over $100,000.

If he had done this in a wealthy Republican district, he may have not had a problem but this was in a predominant democrat area of middle to lower middle class taxpayers.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 11:32:36 PM PST by Badray
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To: StormEye

Yes, it is a crime to use a tax payer funded office to do campaign work.

I supported Jane for a long time. That ended last year when she co-sponsored a resolution to praise Dem Senator Vince Fumo for his years of service to the Commonwealth and his constituents. That was just months before his indictment on 137 charges of political corruption including using his tax payer funded office for political work. He was convicted and is now serving a term in federal prison.

I don’t know that Orie did anything wrong. It may be just another political attack on the GOP, but Orie loves the nanny state. She’s been good on RKBA and life, but otherwise seems to believe that government is the solution.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 11:38:18 PM PST by Badray
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To: Born Conservative
Cutting to the chase, yes, Orie's sister won the seat on the PA Supreme Court. According to this Democrat newsroom, the margin of victory was "slim":

Melvin's margin over Democrat Jack Panella in Tuesday's general election was slim -- 53 percent to 47 percent, with 99 percent of the state's precincts counted.

Huh... The numbers look exactly the same as Ubama's "slim" election.

10 posted on 12/23/2009 11:51:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Born Conservative

I’m still waiting to find out what happened to these computers:

http://wbztv.com/local/acorn.office.break.2.842704.html


11 posted on 12/24/2009 4:19:02 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: Badray
He was convicted and is now serving a term in federal prison.

The sentence was a slap on the wrist, compared to what he SHOULD have gotten.

12 posted on 12/24/2009 6:13:31 AM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Born Conservative

I agree. He should have to spend the rest of his life in prison and lose his pension, his homes, and his other assets, but that wasn’t my point.

My point was that Jane — a former prosecutor — thought that Fumo deserved praise for his service instead of a prison sentence.


13 posted on 12/24/2009 8:27:51 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray

I understood your point. I was just commenting on Fumo getting off lightly.


14 posted on 12/24/2009 8:58:16 PM PST by Born Conservative ("I'm a fan of disruptors" - Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Badray
If I remember correctly, the home was owned by his in laws and he actually lived in Virginia.

Sorry Badray, but I doubt that you have a faulty memory since you've been trashing Santorum with lies since long before the election of 2006. There was NEVER any question that Santorum owned the house in Penn Hills as well as the house in VA where he and his family resided. You're the only person I've ever seen accuse him of not owning property in PA, but then you're the only person I ever saw accuse him of being anti-gun.

15 posted on 12/26/2009 10:24:04 AM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

The property was owned by his in laws. At some point, there may have been a transfer — real or for convenience and cover — but the family lived in Va, not Pa. He used that address a a way to run from that district. It was too small to accommodate his many children.

In addition, his hypocrisy over it is simply stunning. He won office by pointing out that the incumbent didn’t live in the district, but in Va (or somewhere closer to DC).

Voting against gun owners one out of every three votes — as rated by FOAC and GOA — gives him about 64% pro gun. That is a failing grade in most anyones book, not just mine.

I know that you will never change your mind because tou want to ignore the reality and the consequences of his votes, but he is not the man that either the dems or his own PR machine made him out to be. His duplicity was such that conservatives tired of him and removed him from office. He’s gone and I doubt that he’ll be back in elected office ever again.

If you have proof of any ‘lies’, please post them. I may be mistaken about the deed for the property, but I am not wrong on the intent to deceive the public about his purpose.


16 posted on 12/27/2009 6:18:42 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray

Happy with Senator-for-Life Casey? I’m sure in your mind that he’s ideal as you worked so hard to convince FReepers to elect him over Santorum. Does he pay you or are you just a volunteer?


17 posted on 12/28/2009 6:26:56 AM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

Thanks for bringing that up.

No I don’t work or volunteer for Casey and I am not happy with him at all. In fact, I warned that if Casey was elected on the basis of being pro life or pro gun, he’d disappoint us but that would end up making him a one termer.

I wrote in the name of a man who I believed would be an honest conservative but obviously, he lost. I still believe that it was time for Santorum to go because he was not responsive to conservatives. When we tried to hold his feet to the proverbial fire, he fought back saying that we were wrong. He didn’t even want to hear criticism, let alone be open to our suggestions. He was focused on his rise to power and did whatever he could towards that goal. BTW, the longer he was in office the worse he got and the more times he would be reelected the harder it would be to remove him.

What I tried to do was show Santorum’s record. No one ever refuted my posts, they only attacked me for revealing it. Why didn’t people (including you?) want his record known?

Do you really believe that I had the ability to influence 750,000 voters to not vote for him? That’s how many fewer votes he got than in 2000. Apparently I was not the only one who got tired of his duplicity.

May I assume that I adequately answered the charges in your initial post since you no longer want to discuss them?

Attacks on me do not change Ricky’s record. He was a fraud seeking power and he used conservatives and their issues to get there. Unlike what he said about Specter (another bit of treachery) Santorum was not there when we needed him. He was good in the beginning but in light of his later record the question is whether he was faking it then or if he got so driven with ambition that he sold us out to achieve it.


18 posted on 12/28/2009 11:27:07 AM PST by Badray
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To: Badray
Do you really believe that I had the ability to influence 750,000 voters to not vote for him?

I am amazed at how Free Republic has grown, since all I said was that you spent a lot of time prior to the '06 election trashing Santorum and trying to influence FReepers to vote for Casey. And here you are back again 3 yrs. later still trashing him. Surely, you Log Cabin Republicans are not expecting him to run again.

What I tried to do was show Santorum’s record. No one ever refuted my posts, they only attacked me for revealing it.

No, you LIED about Santorum's record and still are. Suppose you show me something that says Santorum did NOT own the Penn Hills house in '06 which is what you claim to recall. What he was accused of by the Penn Hills Democrats was not living in the house he OWNED there. As for refuting your posts, you and I tangled back in '06 because you insisted that Santorum who had an A+ from the NRA and received their endorsement was anti-gun although you were unable to provide a single anti-gun vote he had cast.

Still waiting for your proof of the LIES you have posted.

19 posted on 12/28/2009 12:09:38 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

Excuse me for not being clear enough for you to understand.

In 2006, I was accused here of causing his defeat. That would be pretty impressive if I had the ability to influence that many voters across the state. Back in 2006, much of FR was in full denial of Santorum’s bad votes. Apparently some still are but I am seeing more and more conservatives who realize that he was not who he pretended to be.

I take the NRA endorsement with a grain of salt. If you recall, they also endorsed Specter even though he vote for the assault weapons ban and said that he would vote to ban them again. I don’t rely on the NRA, I rely on GOA and FOAC and I posted links to both of those sites. If you chose not to go there, that is willful blindness, not some failure on my part to personally take you there and make you read them.

Have the rules changes while I was away? Are personal attacks and spurious accusations now permitted?

Regardless of whether Santorum actually owned the property, was it a sham to provide political cover? I believe that it was. The house was too small for his family and they were only there on breaks. They lived in Virginia. If I was in error, that’s all it was, an error. I never deliberately post anything that I do not know or believe to be true. You may not like it, but I try to deal only in facts.


20 posted on 12/28/2009 1:38:15 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray
Regardless of whether Santorum actually owned the property...

So now, it doesn't matter that Santorum OWNED the house. Bought it when he was first elected to the Senate in '94, twelve years before you decided it was a "sham."

The house was too small for his family and they were only there on breaks. They lived in Virginia.

Any idea how many kids Santorum had in '94? Was the house too small for his family when they bought it? Do you know any Senators outside of MD, DEL and VA who commute and don't live near D.C. in a second home?

In 2006, I was accused here of causing his defeat.

News to me. All the accusations against you I saw were that you tried to persuade FReepers to vote for Casey, a faux pro-life Socialist, which would be no different or better than supporting a conservative, Santorum.

I take the NRA endorsement with a grain of salt.

You may be the only person who does. I live less than a half hour from Presto, PA and have never heard of FOAC or their PAC which claims to reach 5,000 people/mo. That sounds like the "Gold Standard" for firearms voters. LOL! As for GOA, I personally have no problem with them, but they are hardly considered mainstream or the place firearms owners check before casting a vote.

Are personal attacks and spurious accusations now permitted?

You post misinformation about Santorum on FR and then accuse me of making a personal attack on you because I called you on it?

21 posted on 12/28/2009 3:18:32 PM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

The sham is that he did not live there. He lived in Va and the Penn Hills home was to cover his hypocrisy for slamming his opponent for doing the same thing. Why was it okay for him to live in the DC area, but not his opponent? THAT is the issue that underlies it all including how many kids there were in 1994.

You mean that you don’t follow all of my posts and the comments posted to me? I’m shocked. I thought that you were more dedicated than that. Yes, that accusation was made. Now, please find any post my me where I advocated voting for Casey and post it here with a link or apologize for lying.

Santorum was not and is not a conservative. He was a phony.

Have you never seen a thread on FR complaining about the NRA? There are plenty of people right here who do not trust the NRA. How can they be trusted if they endorsed Specter after his vote to ban assault weapons and promised to do so again despite (his words) that the ban was wrong and ineffective, all in one sentence.

Are you a gun owner? Are you active in protecting the RKBA? If you are and haven’t heard of FOAC, you might just be living in a cave. They have a good record of supporting pro gun candidates AND working to help them win. It’s a completely volunteer organization and the members are passionate about preserving our rights.

What does calling me a ;og cabin republican have to do with anything? How is that calling me on a lie? There were no lies from me and that comment (amongst others) was a personal attack.

Try as you might, you will not be able to goad me to anger. You have proven nothing about the claims you made about me. You make assertions and they are worthless. I don’t recall now the specifics of Santorum’s home ownership but that is a red herring to distract from the fact that he is not a conservative. Even there, I admit that I may have made a mistake, but I did not and will not lie to make a point. Apparently you are not guided by the same standards and principles.


22 posted on 12/28/2009 8:18:45 PM PST by Badray
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To: Badray
What does calling me a ;og cabin republican have to do with anything?

Just guessing since the Log Cabin Republicans with Soros' financing were the ones who conspired to take down Santorum and ran the bulk of the local campaigns in PA since they could not tolerate his socially conservative views. Since you called such attention to yourself in '06 with your vehement determination to poison the minds of FReepers against Santorum and to have him replaced with a real phony claiming to be pro-life and pro-gun, if you weren't part of a Soros' financed group to elect another one of his puppets, then I would guess you have some personal grudge against Santorum.

NRA - My family are all life members, but that doesn't stop me from being critical of the process of endorsement. Still, it remains the only endorsement that has any mainstream political value.

FOAC - I have never heard of it and don't know anyone who belongs. I would like to meet someone who does to see if it participated in the scam run in PA to convince hunters and sportsmen by word of mouth that it was safe to vote for Obama. You are aware of what went on in the last election, aren't you?

Why would I want to provoke you? I'm just sorry that you continue to post misinformation about Santorum and I wonder which elected conservative you will next advocate should be replaced by a Socialist. Jane Orie?

23 posted on 12/29/2009 7:07:11 AM PST by penowa
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To: penowa

What color is the sky in your world? I ask because you have such a distorted view of this world.

You accuse me of being a queer and a left wing operative without a shred of proof. Just accusations. You tell me to be a conservative by giving up my conservative values and by not voting for conservative candidates. How exactly does that work?

I am 100% pro life without the exceptions that Santorum says are okay. He believes that claiming rape or incest is enough reason to kill a baby.

You insinuate that FOAC is a Soros funded disinformation group working to elect Zero. I am 100% pro gun for free people. If you are not to be trusted with a gun, you should either be locked up or dead. Santorum agrees with ‘reasonable exceptions’ to our liberty and the ability to defend our lives with deadly force.

What is ‘mainstream political value’? Does it mean supporting the republican regardless of the positions of the candidate? Will you explain to me what value their endorsement has if an advocate of any kind of weapons ban can get their endorsement?

Santorum believes that the government should enforce sanctions on the private acts of free people who are consenting adults. I don’t. I don’t believe that God approves of homosexual behavior but he allows for the free will of the people. My problem with Santorum’s plan is in how to enforce the laws that he claims are good for society regarding such acts without violating the rights of everyone. Who monitors the monitors?

I am a social conservative and believe in God, but I also believe that the government is not that God or our nanny. Rick, otoh, believes in social engineering via the IRS. He admitted (or bragged) on national TV that he is a ‘big government conservative’. The terms are self nullifying. You cannot be for big government and a conservative.

Your tactics tell me that you are a student of Saul Alinsky.

I do not expect answers to my questions based on your history of not answering them. I do fully expect you to come back at me with more attacks and insults. If that makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.


24 posted on 12/29/2009 1:39:34 PM PST by Badray
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