Radio Host Delilah Pulls Kids from Crosspoint Academy, Claiming School Teaches Veiled Mormonism

To: centurion316

Things were pretty nasty on the Kansas-Missouri border around that time too.

Got any evidence of this?

61 posted on 12/27/2009 4:58:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

....passsages like Jude 3?

John 6

28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

Galatians 3

1. You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified.
2. I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?

62 posted on 12/27/2009 5:03:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: centurion316

No thanks, I’ll stick to Muslim bashing and let you nutters have Mormon bashing all to yourselves.

THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY

CHAPTER 14

An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the Gentiles—There are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devil—The saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable church—The apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C.

1 And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks—
2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.
3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.
4 For behold, this is according to the captivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him.
5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repented not must perish.
6 Therefore, woe be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.
7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea.
9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God.
14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.
15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the nations and kindreds of the earth.
16 And as there began to be wars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things—
17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.
18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.
20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.
22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world.
23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men.
24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see.
25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them.
26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.
27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was john, according to the word of the angel.
28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw.
29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my father saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me.
30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was carried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen.

63 posted on 12/27/2009 5:06:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

64 posted on 12/27/2009 5:09:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

To: centurion316

As an unchurched Episcopalian, I have plenty of grist for the mill about the current state of the Episcopal Church.

Oh oh!

Now them MORMONs will likely lump you together with them OTHER Episcopalians: know what I mean?

66 posted on 12/27/2009 5:13:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

We listen to her show often at night in the car and usually have the radio on for our daughter in her room when she goes to sleep to her show. Delilah is good people.

67 posted on 12/27/2009 5:15:50 AM PST by My Favorite Headache

To: HungarianGypsy

Once posted a thread asking about everyone’s religions without the bashing.

You'll find that many folks tend to think that posting SCRIPTURE that directly address the ANTI-biblical nature of what they believe is bashing.

I've yet to find any Christians, when presented MORMON 'scripture' to address a certain point; EVER complain that they've been BASHED.

68 posted on 12/27/2009 5:16:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

When a MORMON ‘principal’, that cannot be defended pops up, it seems that an INDIVIDUAL on the other side of the aisle is held up as a bad example; as though that will justify the ‘principal’.

69 posted on 12/27/2009 5:18:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Hierarchical doctrine was traditionally rejected by Disciples as human-made and divisive, and subsequently, freedom of belief and scriptural interpretation allows many Disciples to question or even deny beliefs common in doctrinal churches such as the Incarnation, the Trinity, and the Atonement.

Interesting concept!

70 posted on 12/27/2009 5:25:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Doesn’t it get old?

Not for me!

Ya gotta contend for the faith!

Iffn one ain't up to it; well... ok then.

71 posted on 12/27/2009 5:27:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

I still can’t find the veiled Mormonism that this woman is opposing.

72 posted on 12/27/2009 5:28:25 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)

People loved the song and said how inspiring it was, until they found out it was sung by a Mormon and then it became anathema and of the devil.

You mean THIS one?

73 posted on 12/27/2009 5:32:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Are you saying that if a Mormon had anything to do with it, it’s so tainted of evil that it must be shunned and abhorred?

WWJD?

OH GOODY! Just what we need. ..something or someone to identify those of us who are showing "non-Christ-like" behavior!

And THEN they'd bi complain that only CHIRST should be able to exhibit such behavior!

Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23

1. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2. "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5. "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;
6. they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7. they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
8. "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
9. And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10. Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you will be your servant.
12. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
14. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16. "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
17. You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
18. You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
19. You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
20. Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
21. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
22. And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
24. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
28. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
30. And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
31. So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
32. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33. "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
34. Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
37. "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38. Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "

Mark 7:26-27
26. The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
27. "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

And St. Paul chimes in...

Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

74 posted on 12/27/2009 5:34:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

Ah... you’re finally seeing the light!

(When I’m TALKING; no one call tell if my spelling is correct...)

75 posted on 12/27/2009 5:35:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)

From a post I posted to you earlier on another thread, but you haven't responded to:

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

All I have to say about your feeble and, yet, so inept attempts to proclaim to one and all about the evilness of the Mormon church, while seeking to whitewash and occlude the corruption within your own belief system is "WWJD?"

Also, read what some top notch Evangelical scholars had to say about what your MO and how much good it is, or, how bad it is.

Mormon scholarship, apologetics, and evangelical neglect: Losing the battle and not knowing it?

Too many evangelicals accept and propagate certain myths about Mormon scholarship. It is a myth that there are few, if any, traditional Mormon scholars with training in fields pertinent to evangelical-Mormon debates. It is a myth that when Mormons receive training in historiography, biblical languages, theology, and philosophy they invariably abandon traditional Latter-day Saints (LDS) beliefs in the historicity of the Book of Mormon and the prophethood of Joseph Smith. It is a myth that liberal Mormons have so shaken the foundations of LDS belief that Mormonism is crumbling apart. It is a myth that neoorthodox Mormons have influenced the theology of their church to such a degree that it will soon abandon traditional emphases and follow a path similar to the RLDS (Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) or the World-Wide Church of God. These are myths based upon ignorance and selective reading. Evangelicals who wish to be responsible must abandon them.

--snip--

The evangelical world needs to wake up and respond to contemporary Mormon scholarship. If not, we will needlessy lose the battle without ever knowing it. Our suggestions are as follows: First, evangelicals need to overcome inaccurate presuppositions about Mormonism. Second, evangelical counter-cultists need to refer to qualified persons LDS scholarship that is beyond their ability to rebut. Third, evangelical academicians need to make Mormonism, or some aspects of it, an area of professional interest. Fourth, evangelical publishers need to cease publishing works that are uninformed, misleading, or otherwise inadequate. Fifth, scholars in the evangelical community ought to collaborate in several books addressing the issues raised in this paper. Related to this, professional journals should encourage articles on these same topics. Finally, might we suggest that evangelical scholarly societies form study groups to assess the claims made by LDS scholars. Members of the Evangelical Theological Society have made a move in this direction with the recent formation of the Society for the Study of Alternative Religions (SSAR). The fact is that the growth of Mormonism is outpacing even the highest predictions of professional sociologists of religion, and is on its way, within eighty years, to becoming the first world-religion since Islam in the seventh century. With such growth, the needs expressed in this paper will become ever more pressing as the twenty-first century approaches.

>>>>>>>>>

Many antagonists of the Church have repeatedly told me to "wake up and smell the coffee" thinking they were being ever so witty and cutesy, but, in spite of the worst efforts, I have never felt the spirit of the Lord with anybody who sought to destroy my faith, and elsie, I don't feel his spirit or his truth in any of your posts, only angry and bitter emotions.

Please answer me one question: Why would I want to listen to you and those who practice this same type of denigrating love that has been rendered worthless and impotent?

76 posted on 12/27/2009 5:36:20 AM PST by urroner

Nah, you not only got the wrong religion, but even the wrong sex. Her name is Hilary Weeks and the song is “El Shaddai.”

77 posted on 12/27/2009 5:43:49 AM PST by urroner

Nah, you not only got the wrong religion, but even the wrong sex. Her name is Hilary Weeks and the song is “El Shaddai.” When Amy Grant sang it, then it became okay to listen to the song, but not if a Mormon was singing it. I still find that type of bigotry rather amusing, amusing but sad.

The author of the song, Michael Card, has a web site and a discussion board on it ( http://michaelcard.com ) and one of the posters said this:

“I am not offended. I would worship with Mormons, too. I’ve prayed with one or two.

How are you going to lead them to Christ if you start out by insulting them? The way of the Lord is gentle, not breaking a bruised reed.”

78 posted on 12/27/2009 5:57:11 AM PST by urroner

I know what you mean. I tell people that on the internet I’m really good looking and some of them even believe it.

79 posted on 12/27/2009 6:01:28 AM PST by urroner

How are you going to lead them to Christ if you start out by insulting them?

You mean, for example, sending out 60,000 missionaries per year to knock on Christians' door and inform them that the Gospel they believe in was taken from the earth and replaced by a "true gospel", translated via looking in a hat and is the ONLY way to salvation? By informing them that the Trinity is false and the mormon "plan of salvation" is superior to all beliefs of said Christian? That the Cross of Jesus is anathema?

Yeah, that'll do it!

Keep telling us how to lead folks to Christ.

80 posted on 12/27/2009 8:05:48 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)

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