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To: the long march

So, which of the seven principles are unchristian?

I once worked with a saved Christian who kept walking around the office saying that God was his co-pilot, but, while that could have been true, we also found out that even though he was married, he had a little dish off to the side. It seems that the devil was the stewardess.

I know several people who went to prison for violent crimes and, while in prison, they “found” Jesus. They told everybody they had found Jesus. They even went to a couple of local churches and claimed before one and all they had found Jesus. Within a short time, one or two years, they were back in prison for committing some pretty violent crimes.

So, when I hear people that I don’t know or trust say things like “God runs my life,” “I have found Jesus,” or “God is my co-pilot,” those things are meaningless to me.


19 posted on 12/26/2009 3:33:22 PM PST by urroner
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To: urroner; Elsie; Godzilla; Tennessee Nana
So, when I hear people that I don’t know or trust say things like “God runs my life,” “I have found Jesus,” or “God is my co-pilot,” those things are meaningless to me.

How 'bout the ones who go around saying, "I had a burning in my bosom from the Holy Ghost telling me that Joseph Smith is a twoooo prophet of the Lord and I KNOW the church is twooo."?

You think none of these folks had a " had a little dish off to the side"...and what about Joseph Smith's literal "banquet"??

28 posted on 12/26/2009 4:39:13 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: urroner
You missed the point. These principles are most definitely NOT about religion. They are neither Christian nor unchristian. I was not ‘knocking’ them merely saying that their is nothing in them that leads my life.

The fact that you worked for a hypocrite is not my fault. I had nothing to do with that. You notice I did not say what my religious beliefs are only that I work on a daily basis to be of maximum service to God and my fellows? How does committing a violent crime or lying to people or breaking vows or any of a hundred other actions fit into that? It doesn't.

Fact is human beings are flawed and failed. We as a fallen group find it easier to lie than tell the truth. We don't like to face hard truths. Humans left to their own devices end up doing some pretty awful things. Fortunately, Grace is perfect and brings many to being their better selves.

And of course if I mention the bad things that Mormons or Muslims or Jews or Hindus or anyone else does not doubt you will scoff and tell me that's not about the religion.

I am not responsible for others actions. If they claim something which is untrue they will have to live with the consequences of that. All I can do is live my life not the one YOU want me to live

42 posted on 12/26/2009 7:21:53 PM PST by the long march
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To: urroner; the long march
I once worked with a saved Christian who kept walking around the office saying that God was his co-pilot, but, while that could have been true, we also found out that even though he was married, he had a little dish off to the side. It seems that the devil was the stewardess. I know several people who went to prison for violent crimes and, while in prison, they “found” Jesus. They told everybody they had found Jesus. They even went to a couple of local churches and claimed before one and all they had found Jesus. Within a short time, one or two years, they were back in prison for committing some pretty violent crimes. [Urroner]

Yeah, boy this eerily reminds me of a poem I once heard:
Was shelled out some dough from a Joe
-- to find out later that Summ'
'twas big-time counterfeit -- well, at least some
tho the Benji was talkin' "green"
'twas obvious he was quite lean

tho the Benjifeiter did time for the crime
'twas back in the slammer in quick manner
said he reformed but ne'er did replace the two-face

So, when I hear people that I don’t know or trust say things like “God runs my life,” “I have found Jesus,” or “God is my co-pilot,” those things are meaningless to me. [Urroner]

Ever since, Urroner, I'm just like you...
...when I hear people that I don't know or trust say things like...
..."Hey, can I use these greenbacks and c-notes to buy that Craig's list item you put on sale?" or "Here's your change" those things are meaningless to me. (Once you encounter a $ counterfeiter, Urroner, since I know you share my distrust, I know you, too, will forever swear off buying into $ system biz)

43 posted on 12/26/2009 7:36:01 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: urroner
 
It seems that the devil was the stewardess.
 
Perhaps he was channeling Joseph Smith!!
 




 

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64 posted on 12/27/2009 5:09:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: urroner; the long march

So, when I hear people that I don’t know or trust say things like “God runs my life,” “I have found Jesus,” or “God is my co-pilot,” those things are meaningless to me.

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Of course they are becuase you do not have a real relationship with Jesus Christ.

And those who claim to have a relationship with Jesus, yet behave in the ways you describe, their faith is up for question.

A real relationship, REALLY “finding Jesus”, changes a person’s heart and entire life. You cannot understand unless you experience it. And you cannot experience inside the LDS “program”.


113 posted on 12/27/2009 7:35:09 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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