I still can’t find the veiled Mormonism that this woman is opposing. [AppyPappy]
Hey, when an author deliberately covers up Lds “prophet” David O. McKay’s title when quoting him (p. 294 of 7 habits) – calling him merely a “religious leader,” then, yes, that’s veiling Mormonism. When you cite someone positively without qualifiers, you’re basically telling the reader these are mighty fine people to read…and Covey did the same in quoting Ezra Taft Benson in the book. (Benson was also an Lds “prophet” – of course, NOT id’d as such by Cover-up Covey). Covey also quotes another Mormon leader, N. Eldon Tanner.
Also Covey recommends ”daily prayerful meditation” on what he focuses on – the Mormon scriptures on p. 292. (Only, he leaves out the Mormon reference; hence, ‘tis veiled)
I was introduced to this book through work years ago, I had no idea who Covey but as I read it, my inner radar screamed something is not right about this....I later found out Covey was a Mormon. Not a bad book,but it does reek of Mormon good works… [ThisLittleLightofMine]
Nothing in the 7 habits book struck me as Mormomist, either explicitly or implicitly…You could be a person of any faith and apply these simple practices that are more for focusing on good habits. [TradicalRC]
So, when a MORMON author cites three MORMON leaders in a book (Benson, McKay, Tanner), nothing explicitly MORMON jumps right out atcha? (OK)
I have been through the 7 habits, and found them to be very useful in the management of people. I found nothing theological about it, it is mostly philosophical. I will admit, though, several participants claimed to see veiled Mormonism… [Hoosier Hick]
Well, as mentioned above, when a Mormon author cites Mormon leaders without telling readers they are Mormon, then, yes, that’s a deliberate exclusion of the word Mormon/Lds, etc.
As far as supposedly ”nothing theological about it,” then ya wanna explain, Hoosier Hick, why Covey...
...has 5 references in the index about spiritual components? (Upward spiral of spiritual renewal; spiritual dimension in renewal)
...mentions the Mormon god on p. 319 & the Mormon lord on p. 309?
...recommends ”daily prayerful meditation” on the Mormon Scriptures? (p. 292)
...claims that “intrinsic security” comes from “within…correct principles deep in your mind and heart…Peace of mind comes when your life is in harmony with true principles and values and in no other way.”?? (p. 298)
Well, that sounds pretty exclusive. But you know, principles/values can be impersonal -- in contrast to even principles/values derived from a personal God. True peace comes from trusting God (Isaiah 26:3) – and being in harmony in RELATIONSHIP with Him! (It's not "pocketing" all the correct principles)
In Covey's book, I see few references to God or relating to Him. Instead, He places the emphasis on correct principles (pp. 295, 305, 309, numerous others), which is thoroughly Joseph Smith, who was big-time "principle" this and "principle" that...
Covey also claims a theology that wealth-power comes from within vs. the God who transcends us. (When you understand that Mormon authors think of themselves as gods-in-embryo, then of course, YOU are the power-generator).
Do you boycott his programs and books because he’s a Mormon? [Saundra Duffy]
OK, again, let’s address what THE root issue was in this story:
A CHRISTIAN woman woman objected to her kids, who are still immature in their spiritual discernment, from being subjected to...
...MORMON philosophy...
...under the guise of CHRISTIAN curricula.
So, if a CHRISTIAN school doesn’t carry MORMON-produced material, are you now joining the Deseret News/Mormon Times chorus that CHRISTIANS are boycotting MORMON materials? Really? (So, when LDS bookstores don’t carry CHRISTIAN published materials, so they’re boycotting CHRISTIANS? Are you consistent in holding that position?)
So, Saundra do you also object to PARENTS having the right to oversee what spiritual materials their kids will be force-fed @ school?
So, when a MORMON author cites three MORMON leaders in a book (Benson, McKay, Tanner), nothing explicitly MORMON jumps right out atcha? (OK)
Yeah. Something is not MORMON simply because a MORMON said it. For example, they use the phrase Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. So by your reckoning the name Jesus must be a Mormon thing and if you don't tell people that Mormons talk about Jesus then THAT's covert Mormonism!
Right.