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To: Colofornian
Right from the horse's mouth:

A Closer Look At The 7 Habits of a Highly Successful Mormon: Stephen R. Covey

Yet, 7 Habits contains many of the same principles, anecdotes, and illustrations found in one of Covey’s earlier books, The Divine Center. This book was written by Covey to promote Mormon beliefs and show that any spiritual model other than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) is a false "map" that limits the personal development of its followers.

Covey explains in The Divine Center that he has discovered how to communicate Mormon truths to non-Mormons by simply changing his vocabulary. He writes, " I have found in speaking to various non-LDS groups in different cultures that we can teach and testify of many gospel principles if we are careful in selecting words which carry our meaning but come from their experience and frame of mind." [Divine Center, p. 240.]


3 posted on 12/26/2009 1:19:06 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Obamacare: Old folks don't deserve healthcare. They use up too many carbon credits just breathing.)
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To: greyfoxx39; All; Utah Binger; urroner
From the Southern Baptist article linked to post #1: One of the things that Covey believes evangelical churches have gotten wrong is the doctrine of the Trinity which he calls an “apostate doctrine.” He claims that the doctrine of the Trinity has “lead people to believe that we are a creation of God rather than his literal offspring.” [Divine Center, p. 82.] Covey believes that the maps (paradigms) used by most people are false because of apostasy.

What usually gets me are defenders of Mormonism who aren't Mormon but are either members of a church -- or their parents were. And yet they don't seem to comprehend that not only Covey, but every true believing Mormon sees every other church & their members as consisting of "apostates." Many somehow understand that Islam defines Christians as "infidels," but they don't quite comprehend that Lds label us in exactly the same way!

So, the "irony" here is that Crosspoint Academy, which I assume is "Christian" and trinitarian, uses an author who is anti-trinitarian (and therefore anti-Christian)! And it's called "Crosspoint" even though their curricula is based upon Mormons like Covey who militate vs. the cross??? (More irony)

And Mormon columnists like Joel Campbell -- who are paid by the LDS HQ -- call Delilah "irrational" just 'cause she "doesn't understand Mormons are Christians?". If Campbell hurls this at Delilah and others who refuse to call Romney a "Christian," then what does that equate to for the LDS Church HQ's view of all others who refuse to bow to their edicts that they be recognized as "Christians?"

(More labels like "irrational...bigots" await them, too)

Strange. Lds "prophets" like Hinckley fumed at the fLDS being labeled as "Mormon" and on the Larry King refused to even recognize their very existence. ("No such thing" was his summation) So Mormons from the top-down want to define Mormonism but get all huffy when any boundaries are set for Christianity.

7 posted on 12/26/2009 1:36:48 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: greyfoxx39

I have found in speaking to various non-LDS groups in different cultures that we can teach and testify of many gospel principles if we are careful in selecting words which carry our meaning but come from their experience and frame of mind.”

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IOW, “Lying for the Lord”.


24 posted on 12/26/2009 4:21:08 PM PST by reaganaut (When we FACE UP to the Majesty of God, we will find ourselves FACE DOWN in Worship" - Matt Redman)
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To: greyfoxx39
...by simply changing his vocabulary.

Here we go!!

36 posted on 12/26/2009 5:06:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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