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To: mlizzy
I absolutely think organic gardening and recycling are two great ways to help save the earth.

The earth is not in danger and therefore is not in need of "saving".


I realize chemicals have produced more food, albeit lower quality in regard to nutritional positives, which in turn causes dis-ease, which in turn ... and so on, and so on ...

The idea that the product of industrial agriculture causes more disease is a fantasy.

Feeding starving people prevents disease. Food I grow myself tastes better than factory food, but I can live just fine on factory food, and "organic" food, by which I assume you mean chemical free food, is a fashionable niche product for people whose economic status allows them the luxury. If, however, you want to feed the world, chemical fertilizer and pesticides is the way to do it. It's like windmills vs. petroleum. One technology is cute, cool, and contributes a tiny bit on the edge of the economy, the other one powers the entire world.


Christ didn't mean for us to dump a bunch of chemicals on His earth and expect wonderful pluses to come from it.

That is a complete mischaracterization of modern industrial farming. By the way, do you really think that Jesus wants all those billions of people killed by malaria because of the ban on DTD to have died that way? I mean, think of the children!

The chemical industry, along with the rest of industrial capitalism, have raised humanity from wretchedness, poverty, and disease. Romanticizing an earth free of industry and disdaining chemicals because they are somehow "ungodly" is the kind of thinking one hears from 10-year-old girls. In the real world, it's better to go with what actually works.

59 posted on 01/01/2010 4:54:45 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: Jeff Chandler

billions = millions


61 posted on 01/01/2010 4:59:43 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (:: The government will do for health care what it did for real estate. ::)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Romanticizing an earth free of industry and disdaining chemicals because they are somehow "ungodly" is the kind of thinking one hears from 10-year-old girls.

One also hears it, all to often, from middle-aged Roman Catholics and "crunchy-cons."

Unfortunately.

63 posted on 01/01/2010 5:09:23 PM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
You do not enter the kingdom of heaven until you are like a little child. Inferring I'm thinking like a 10-year-old girl then is a compliment.:) I'm hardly rich in a financial sense ... quite the opposite, but I frequently eat organic (chemical free) food. If you've got a small plot of land or even a garbage can to fill with dirt (our neighbors do it!), you can grow some chemical free food.

Yes, if you want a quick-paced industrialized world filled with the stresses that go along with it, I'm sure your way is "the" way, but to say it isn't destroying the earth? Christ will show you when you greet Him, what the earth would have looked liked if man hadn't interfered so much with its works and beauty.

"Is this heaven? No, this is Iowa" --from Field of Dreams. (Always have liked that line -- great movie!)
90 posted on 01/02/2010 8:54:09 AM PST by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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