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To: savagesusie; TitansAFC
I am sure the Pope understands the human fallibility and the immorality of man who use “science” to try and control people’s productivity, manipulate human emotions, and endeavor to enslave and destroy man’s soul.

Perhaps I'm being too political, but I think the Vatican has missed the boat on the AGW issue. Had the Pope (and his predecessor) remained clearly noncommittal, then there'd be a real chance to hold up AGW as a classic example of the "Arrogance of Man without God"...perhaps translated to "Arrogant Godless Wonders" once it hit the street. If timed right, such a missive would have a huge impact - especially since the "Arrogance" in this case centers around a group that's forsaken scientific integrity for political influence.

Imagine: a missive that condemns arrogance-in-a-labcoat and sticks up for proper scientific procedure. That's the chance that the Vatican has missed, in my opinion.

83 posted on 01/02/2010 6:54:22 AM PST by danielmryan
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To: danielmryan

Yes, you are correct about the “Arrogance of Man” but that is what I thought the Pope keeps chiding us about in a gentle Fatherly way. Humility is a big part of the Catholic Church although corruption and perfection on Earth is not possible. I see him as trying to nudge us in the correct direction, not command us, since we do have Free Will.

I also see the extension of the Church becoming too soft and unsure of itself in the wake of corruption and public opinion and find the Church too lenient with excommunication and not strong enough when denouncing the popular culture and Islamic actions. But then, main stream media does not agree with the Vatican on much of anything, so they will distort and refuse to publish much of the thought that comes out of that institution.


84 posted on 01/02/2010 7:40:11 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: danielmryan

Yes, you are correct about the “Arrogance of Man” but that is what I thought the Pope keeps chiding us about in a gentle Fatherly way. Humility is a big part of the Catholic Church although corruption and perfection on Earth is not possible. I see him as trying to nudge us in the correct direction, not command us, since we do have Free Will.

I also see the extension of the Church becoming too soft and unsure of itself in the wake of corruption and public opinion and find the Church too lenient with excommunication and not strong enough when denouncing the popular culture and Islamic actions. But then, main stream media does not agree with the Vatican on much of anything, so they will distort and refuse to publish much of the thought that comes out of that institution.


85 posted on 01/02/2010 7:40:18 AM PST by savagesusie
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