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Palin: It's War, not a Crime Spree
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Posted on 01/05/2010 1:04:31 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Palin: It’s War, not a Crime Spree

A strong statement from the People's Governor:

President Obama’s meeting with his top national security advisers does nothing to change the fact that his fundamental approach to terrorism is fatally flawed. We are at war with radical Islamic extremists and treating this threat as a law enforcement issue is dangerous for our nation’s security. That’s what happened in the 1990s and we saw the result on September 11, 2001. This is a war on terror not an “overseas contingency operation.” Acts of terrorism are just that, not “man caused disasters.” The system did not work. Abdulmutallab was a child of privilege radicalized and trained by organized jihadists, not an “isolated extremist” who traveled to a land of “crushing poverty.” He is an enemy of the United States, not just another criminal defendant.

It simply makes no sense to treat an al Qaeda-trained operative willing to die in the course of massacring hundreds of people as a common criminal. Reports indicate that Abdulmutallab stated there were many more like him in Yemen but that he stopped talking once he was read his Miranda rights. President Obama’s advisers lamely claim Abdulmutallab might be willing to agree to a plea bargain – pretty doubtful you can cut a deal with a suicide bomber. John Brennan, the President’s top counterterrorism adviser, bizarrely claimed “there are no downsides or upsides” to treating terrorists as enemy combatants. That is absurd. There is a very serious downside to treating them as criminals: terrorists invoke their “right” to remain silent and stop talking. Terrorists don’t tell us where they were trained, what they were trained in, who they were trained by, and who they were trained with. Giving foreign-born, foreign-trained terrorists the right to remain silent does nothing to keep Americans safe from terrorist threats. It only gives our enemies access to courtrooms where they can publicly grandstand, and to defense attorneys who can manipulate the legal process to gain access to classified information.

President Obama was right to change his policy and decide to send no more detainees to Yemen where they can be free to rejoin their war on America. Now he must back off his reckless plan to close Guantanamo, begin treating terrorists as wartime enemies not suspects alleged to have committed crimes, and recognize that the real nature of the terrorist threat requires a commander-in-chief, not a constitutional law professor.

Posted by Michael Goldfarb on January 5, 2010 03:49 PM


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: palin; sarahpalin
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To: Sub-Driver
Somewhere in The White House...

How can you not love this woman.

21 posted on 01/05/2010 1:43:36 PM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberals wince at the word "war" like Manynard G. Krebbs* did the word "work" (but liberals wince at that word, too.).

I received this today in email, which further proves the point of liberal presidents/senators not "getting it":

It was 1987, an there was Col. Ollie North - in front of God and country - getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator, 'Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?'

Ollie replied, 'Yes, I did, Sir.'

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, 'Isn't that just a little excessive?'

'No, sir,' continued Ollie.

'No? And why not?' the senator asked.

'Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir.'

'Threatened? By whom?' the senator questioned.

'By a terrorist, sir' Ollie answered.

'Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?'

'His name is Osama bin Laden, sir' Ollie replied.

Then the senator continued. 'Why are you so afraid of this man?' the senator asked.

'Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of', Ollie answered.

'And what do you recommend we do about him?' asked the senator.

'Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth.'

The senator disagreed with this approach.

By the way, that senator was Al Gore!

Also:

Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993,Israel had to agree to release so-called 'political prisoners.'

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, 'insisted' that all prisoners be released.

Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked us by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.

It was censored in the US from all later reports.


So, not only does Sarah's column make perfect sense, we have a searing precedent of the results of using the criminal courts and liberal presidents agaist terrorism.

The kenyan is going to bring about an even bigger event on American soil with his irresponsible policies and loyalties to islam.

Those who refuse to learn from the mistakes of the past are DOOMED TO REPEAT THEM.

*Maynard G. Krebbs was the beatnik (hippie) character from the 60's TV sitcom, "The Many Loves Of Dobie Gillis", who did not, and refused to work for a living.
22 posted on 01/05/2010 1:47:11 PM PST by FrankR (Unions promote socialism and mass mediocrity amongst human beings, at their own expense.)
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To: trumandogz
Rewriting history never works on FR...too many remember the outrage by the rightwing press, commentators and our base.
23 posted on 01/05/2010 1:47:54 PM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"...We are at war with radical Islamic extremists and treating this threat as a law enforcement issue is dangerous for our nation’s security..."

For a "dumb, ignorant hick" she sure has a way of cutting right to the heart of the matter within the first two sentences.

What this administration is doing is criminal. A lot of people are going to be hurt because of it.

24 posted on 01/05/2010 1:49:45 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: McGruff

I love that graphic!


25 posted on 01/05/2010 1:49:53 PM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: cll

26 posted on 01/05/2010 1:51:56 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: trumandogz

Bush’s Fault?


27 posted on 01/05/2010 1:53:34 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Sub-Driver

......and recognize that the real nature of the terrorist threat requires a commander-in-chief, not a constitutional law professor. ......

When the only tool in your box is a hammer, everything becomes a nail

( I thought about having screw driver and screwing everything in sight but it doesn’t really apply )


28 posted on 01/05/2010 2:00:41 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . What ever I do is what shall be)
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To: Sub-Driver
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29 posted on 01/05/2010 2:09:35 PM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: FrankR

FrankR, that exchange between Al Gore and Oliver North didn’t happen. It is an email hoax...


30 posted on 01/05/2010 2:12:28 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: FrankR

But even still, your point is valid...:)


31 posted on 01/05/2010 2:13:30 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel

No, both Bush and Obama should know better.

And, national security is always more important than party loyalty.


32 posted on 01/05/2010 2:20:37 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Sub-Driver

Spot on! It was funny, last night I was yelling at my TV as I watched O’Reilly, Hannity et al, all miss this point. Sarah hit it on the head in that, this is EXACTLY how we delt with them pre 9/11 ... Obama needs to send a message, and toot suite, or he, like so many dims before him, will be a 1 term prez!!

There’s one thing American’s have consistently put above partisan politics, and that’s the safety of our families.. He would do well to recognize this, and fast.

Tim-


33 posted on 01/05/2010 2:24:17 PM PST by D521646
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To: 4Speed
A Moose hunter taking down the Moose-slums.

Palin/DeMint 2012 (Bolton SoS)

34 posted on 01/05/2010 2:28:43 PM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: All

As much as some people would like to saddle President Bush with that mistake, they should keep in mind that the two situations are NOT identical, as I have heard some people say lately (including many on Free Republic)

The shoe bomber incident occurred 3 months after 9/11.

At the time of that attempted bombing, we had only just begun rounding up Al Queda personnel on the battlefields of Afghanistan (the first operations with US troops in force began in the last week or so of October 2001) and I doubt that we had many detainees rounded up at that point. If we did, we weren’t putting them right on C-130’s and flying them to anywhere, and the likely reason is what I outline below.

At that time the FBI still had the responsibility to investigate terrorist acts and having the DOJ prosecute terrorist acts as mere crimes ( as they did in the 1993 WTC bombing, the embassy bombings and the USS Cole bombing)

As a result of 9/11 the Bush administration was in the process of formulating new policies - to treat terrorism as an act of war (to the extraordinarily loud screams of protest from many liberals, both American and foreign, who wanted to paint the Bush administration and the USA as a repressive fascist regime) but as of 12/22/2001 the Administration had barely scratched the surface on the analysis of legal precedents and the entangling of responsibilities.

People can criticize the Bush administration on a lot of things, but one thing they cannot be criticized for is taking the time and making a comprehensive effort to base their future actions regarding the detainees on solid legal ground and therefore repulsing the efforts of Democrats, liberals, dhimmis, fellow travelers and other enemies of America the world over to get battlefield detainees into courtrooms.

At that time, and before appropriate legal policy had been formulated, the shoe bomber (Richard Reid) was a British citizen there was no question at the time but that he had to be treated as a criminal defendant.

What became clear to the Bush administration was that the failures of the intelligence community to share information and, most importantly, the concern with standard limitations on investigation tools in order to avoid application of the exclusionary rule at trial led a de-emphasis on obtaining intelligence in the case of Richard Reid.

Once the Bush administration had their legal ducks in a row, they were very consistent in this matter once they had a legal foundation in place and an appropriate place to detain them (Guantanamo Bay)

To liberals (and some who present themselves as conservatives) the greatest crime of all is hypocrisy. Bash the Bush administration for hypocrisy on any number of other issues, and I won’t disagree on a number of them.

But this simply isn’t one of them.


35 posted on 01/05/2010 2:51:49 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: FrankR

BTTT!


36 posted on 01/05/2010 2:53:09 PM PST by txhurl
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To: trumandogz

See my post at #35. These situations are not the same.

As Ann Coulter says with regard to liberal appeasers, at least Neville Chamberlain didn’t have himself to hold up as an example to avoid. Likewise, if you fault Bush even though he was taking the careful and sober legal approach to make sure his administration didn’t do something that was going to upset the apple cart for future detainees, Obama has no such excuse.

Worse, he is fully aware of the drawbacks of prosecuting in a US criminal court, but that is not a consideration of his.


37 posted on 01/05/2010 2:57:27 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Sub-Driver

LOL. That’s going to sting.


38 posted on 01/05/2010 3:00:37 PM PST by jersey117
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To: cll
"recognize that the real nature of the terrorist threat requires a commander-in-chief, not a constitutional law professor".

Of course BHO was not a real law professor, but an affirmative action grad student lecturer. Unpublished at that.

39 posted on 01/05/2010 3:06:56 PM PST by Poincare
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To: rlmorel

So, you are in agreement with the Clinton and Bush administrations prosecuting terrorists in civilian courts?


40 posted on 01/05/2010 3:18:00 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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