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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Does he email say he said all that on Fox? No.

In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know

Did you bother listening to the interview in the link in post 41? No. He said some of the same things in that interview.

Biography: Juval Aviv Fox News

In addition to his speaking engagements, Aviv has been a guest on ABC “Nightline,” FOX News, CNN, BBC “Newsnight,” ZDF (German National Television) and RAI (Italian National Television) and has been featured in numerous articles in major magazines and newspapers worldwide.

So if your stand is that he never said any of these things, you'd be wrong.

I won't answer you again as you make statements without checking the info.

63 posted on 01/06/2010 10:50:02 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Apparently the truth carries little weight with you. The original post had specific claims made in it, and those claims were false. And the source e-mail is false as well.

Did I state what Juval claimed could happen is wrong? No - but you like to think I did. Did I claim his cautions aren’t worth considering? No - but you make like I did. You like to make your own truth and invent your own facts; however that is not what a conservative would do.

I claimed the e-mail was false, and provably so. The truth is the truth, no matter what you want to make it out to be. Your lies and innuendos notwithstanding.


75 posted on 01/06/2010 11:25:38 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Bet you believe Wikipedia too.

When it comes to some things, yes. You seem any errors on this page? It's all pretty accurate as far as I can tell, and matches all other sources I've read.

The problem is you dismiss a source because of a potential bias; that is NOT a conservative thing to do (in fact, it is liberal - judging a book by it's cover, a man by the color of his skin, a site by the political bent it takes). Facts are a-political; they exist and are true regardless of your attempt to bend them one way or another.

Juval made some specific claims and none of them came true as he said they would. The e-mail claimed he made certain claims on Fox, and that was also provably false. So the rest of the e-mail may have some good information, but the hard facts bear out the e-mail to be a hoax rather than truth.

A conservative mindset would be to evaluate the facts from any site against other known references, and if they bear out then they are accurate. On many technical issues - including ammunition, metallurgy, physics, math, etc - Wikipedia is quite a good reference. On soft, political issues Wikipedia is definitely liberal in bent.

A liberal mindset would be to throw it all out because of your opposition to the bias in political issues (you don't like what they say about X or Y or Z, so you will refuse to trust them on other hard, factual entries). Judging the content of their facts by the color of their politics, rather than letting the facts speak for themselves. Prejudice is a liberal - not conservative - value.

Logic, truth, reason are the domain of the conservative; knee-jerk prejudice and emotionalism is the hallmark of the liberal. Your words place you on the scale...

77 posted on 01/06/2010 11:28:39 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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