Posted on 01/06/2010 1:49:50 PM PST by Sub-Driver
Less Than One Percent of ‘Known or Suspected Terrorists’ Were Put on ‘No Fly’ List Wednesday, January 06, 2010 By Terence P. Jeffrey, Editor-in-Chief
(CNSNews.com) - As of one month ago, less than one percent of the people the U.S. government has designated as “known or suspected terrorists” had been put on the “No Fly” list that the Department of Homeland Security uses to screen air travelers, according to data provided to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Dec. 9 by Timothy J. Healy, director of the Justice Department’s Terrorist Screening Center.
According to Healy, the full “Terrorist Watchlist” included at that moment approximately 400,000 people, while the “No Fly” list included only about 3,400 of those—or 0.85 percent.
Healy testified in the committee a little more than two weeks before Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab boarded a plane from Amsterdam to Detroit and tried to detonate explosives he had smuggled aboard in his underwear. Healy’s statement to the committee about the “No Fly” list was not reported at the time by any newspaper that appears in the Lexis-Nexis database.
After meeting with his national security team yesterday, President Barack Obama lamented that Adulmutallab had not been one of the people put on the “No Fly” list. “Counterterrorism officials have reviewed and updated our terrorist watch list system, including adding more individuals to the ‘no fly’ list,” said Obama. “And while our review has found that our watch-listing system is not broken, the failure to add Abdulmutallab to the ‘no fly’ list shows that this system needs to be strengthened."
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Thought so
My wife, daughter, mother, and other women have to submit to scans that reveal their privates, but we can’t inconvenience over 99% of the people we have reasonable cause to believe are terrorists.
“Clear them before they can board!”
How hard is that one to figure out?
Isn’t that the truth.
We can’t believe a ______ thing our leaders tell us.
BTW, this policy hasn’t just recently changed to be worse. This was the policy under the last guy too.
A)Leftists always to busy playing big shot, and partying to get the job done. B)Too impressed with themselves to focus on the job. C)Certainly somebody duly impressed by their supremacy must be doing the job.
Take your pick, or add your own.
You know... these stories about someone either being on the no-fly list or not being on the no-fly list always seem to alternate between (1) “this guy wasn’t on the list and he is a terrorist and did so and so...” — and this — (2) “this guy was on the no-fly list and he was an innocent person and there’s no reason he should be on there and he can’t get his name off it!”....
They just go back and forth between these two ends...
I’ve read them both, over the past many months — as they alternate back and forth. I guess people have to make up their minds, once and for all (through their government), which story they want to have happen with regularity — the #1 story or the #2 story... because it’s gonna be one or the other, depending on how you go about it...
Of course, in my way of thinking, if you just put everyone who is a Muslim on the no-fly list — then you’ve solved about 99.99% of the problem... LOL...
What “retard” would let someone on the “Terrorists Watchlist” get on a plane for the US?
You raise a valid point. What occurs to me is that we have tens of thousands of people working in national security agencies. I’ll reference the approximate 400 thousand people on the no-fly list.
It’s been over eight years since 09/11. During that time we spared no expense, no amount of man hours, and no amount of inconvenience to travelers, to turn our airports into Checkpoint Charlie.
During that same period of time, we were only able to check out some 4,000 people, and place them on the no-fly list. That’s less than 500 people per year, considering it’s been 8.25 years. Let’s say 100 people were tasked with checking them out. That would mean that they each were only able to check out five people per year. If you increase the number of people checking to 500, that would mean they were only able to check out one person per year. I think you can see where this goes real quick. We’ve got thousands of people who have have been tasked with this.
We didn’t have time to check out the other 400 thousand.
And if those other 400 thousand were checked out, there wouldn’t be a need for our airports to be turned into Checkpoint Charlie. You’re on the list, you don’t go. Period. Presto changeo, airports are safe.
This is more about control of the populace, and keeping tabs on every movement we make, than it is making sure we’re safe.
Nobody will ever convince me otherwise.
We’ve got thousands of people who have could have been tasked with this.
So they will now proudly wear a 1% patch like the bikers?
Obama has put the CIA back to watching polar bears. After all, his people say that the greatest security threat is global warming.
Seriously, “Known or suspected terrorists” is kind of a vague terminology. What threshhold do you have to cross before you are suspected? But I can’t believe that less than 1% of these guys belong on the no-fly list. Maybe 25%? 50%?
The problem is, we are dealing with bureaucrats who refuse to profile. How many of the people on the list are Muslims? How many members of extremist Muslim mosques were left off the list? Why wasn’t someone like the Fort Hood shooter on the list?
I can identify with those comments, because you raise questions we all have, to others or even ourselves.
What I will mention to you, is how quickly they can tell us what a bad guy was up to, after they do something.
I mean that prick at Fort Hood, it was a matter of days if not hours before they knew he had been doing a number of problematic things.
Why should it be any harder to vet the people on the list?
Where have they traveled? Who did they meet with? What public organizations or radicals have they been connected to? What public statements have they made? What have they been doing at work that might indicate problems?
It’s astounding what we find out we already knew with most of these folks. So why aren’t we doing something about it, with the information we have?
I think most people raise those valid questions you have, but then you give it more thought and all of a sudden you’re scratching your head with steam coming out of your ears, saying out loud, “What the —— is going on here?”
At least I am.
BTW, I wanted to acknowledge I should have addressed more of the things you stated that I agreed with. When re-reading your comments, I noted you went a lot farther than I acknowledged. SAT
Oh, come on ... the people in HS are busy being bureaucrats, having meetings, coming up with ever less effective ways to bug the cr*p out of you and me. Why would we think they have time left to develop a data base of terrorists.
That will all be much better when they are unionized of course.
The only way we’ll ever know, is if one of them comes back to the U.S. and kills people.
That seems to be the protocol.
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