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Statement Regarding Pat Robertson's Comments on Haiti
CBN ^ | 1/13/10 | Chris Roslan

Posted on 01/15/2010 8:46:22 AM PST by ZGuy

On today’s The 700 Club, during a segment about the devastation, suffering and humanitarian effort that is needed in Haiti, Dr. Robertson also spoke about Haiti’s history. His comments were based on the widely-discussed 1791 slave rebellion led by Boukman Dutty at Bois Caiman, where the slaves allegedly made a famous pact with the devil in exchange for victory over the French. This history, combined with the horrible state of the country, has led countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed. Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath. If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster. They have sent a shipment of millions of dollars worth of medications that is now in Haiti, and their disaster team leaders are expected to arrive tomorrow and begin operations to ease the suffering.

Chris Roslan Spokesman for CBN


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1791; 700club; cbn; haiti; maxbeauvoir; patrobertson; slaverevolt; voodoo
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To: onedoug
It’s physics, Pat. That’s the way God made it.

The so-called "laws of nature" (and all physical reality) are merely a garment behind which G-dliness, the only true reality is concealed. Ask any Chabadnik. To attribute disasters solely to "natural law" or "randomness" is as erroneous as attributing them to an evil counterpart of G-d (dualism).

There is so much eighteenth century deism on this forum I sometimes think its named should be changed to "Deist Republic."

41 posted on 01/15/2010 10:20:52 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Koh 'amar HaShem, "Shallach `ammi, veya`avduni!")
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Ya know, “we” Evangelicals, who have prayed, sent money, sent missionaries to Haiti for many, many years KNOW about the Pact Haiti made with the Devil and what it is all about. I've known about it for at least 25 years.

Maybe it's TIME for Christians to educate themselves and inform the world that there is a God, there is an Adversary and there is a War going on between light and dark.

Oh yeah, I forgot, if you talk like this you will be persecuted. Oh yeah, I'm supposed to be persecuted if I am a Believer. Nah, I'll just keep my mouth shut, what's the big deal. I know Jesus, I'm going to heaven. That's all I need.
“There will be many in that day who will say Lord, Lord, and I will say DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU.” Pat Robertson will not be one of those.

42 posted on 01/15/2010 10:25:14 AM PST by ladyL
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To: stormer

Well, to what do you attribute the differing situations between the two countries that share the island? They have identical climates, natural resources and peoples. Yet one is the poorest, most violent country in the world.

What is the difference between the two societies which share the same island, do you think? How do you account for the difference?


43 posted on 01/15/2010 10:28:11 AM PST by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tuckrdout

BTTT.


44 posted on 01/15/2010 10:30:58 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: tuckrdout

Uh... their histories?


45 posted on 01/15/2010 10:34:04 AM PST by stormer
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To: stormer
Does he realize that the Haitian revolution was the result of abject desperation as people freed themselves from the worst slavery has to offer?

Yes he does and that was really at the heart of Robertsons observation.

46 posted on 01/15/2010 10:34:20 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Pat is nothing more than a parasite. As such, he will do or say whatever he think is necessary to keep those dollars rolling in.


47 posted on 01/15/2010 10:54:58 AM PST by stormer
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To: Zionist Conspirator
To attribute disasters solely to "natural law" or "randomness" is as erroneous as attributing them to an evil counterpart of G-d (dualism).

As to how God may act within the context of His "natural law", "If I knew Him I'd be Him", even though I "think" that I can discern certain aspects of His interposition in it in own my life.

As to "attributing them to an evil counterpart of G-d (dualism)", I think you may already know that I don't believe in so-called Satan.

48 posted on 01/15/2010 10:59:57 AM PST by onedoug
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To: stormer

And your point is?

To those of use who believe Sarah Palin when she says her candidacy was part of Gods Plan, Robertson’s words have a ring of truth to them.

His explanation of why Haiti’s history is so different from it’s nearest neighbor continue to have the preponderance of circumstantial evidence behind them.


49 posted on 01/15/2010 11:02:08 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: ZGuy
You are right. Freepers love to hate Robertson

Robertson made a very small comment in a larger message about compassion for the Haitians.

The treatment of Robertson is injust and unfair.

Hate is constantly directed to him, but Pat is NOT a gold-digger; he has helped to funnel millions to the needy over the years. And he has done MUCH for the pro-life cause.

I don't watch Pat...I find my news elsewhere; but Freepers are grossly wrong to join the MSM in ridiculing this Christian man when he says two words in error when other TV personalities make mistakes constantly. Very, very sickening.

50 posted on 01/15/2010 11:04:29 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Deist Republic."

Now that's funny.

51 posted on 01/15/2010 11:04:56 AM PST by onedoug
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To: stormer

Thats right. Haiti use to be the “Pearl of the(Greater) Antilles”-—it was extrememly rich, and one of the most important ports in the world.

But, after the sacrifice of the pig, and allegience to satanic voodoo...it has become a living hell on earth. It is a fact.

The wealth and prestige passed to the Dominican Republic- which has the best economy in central America—and who aligned themselves with Jesus Christ through the Catholic Church. Interesting, isn’t it?


52 posted on 01/15/2010 11:21:15 AM PST by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ladyL
How many of the Haitians crushed by concrete personally made a pact with the devil? We know that 80% of Haitians are Catholic - perhaps not totally like Evangelicals, but not Satan worshipers either.

We are judged individually, not collectively. A pact made 200 years ago by a few desperate men has no bearing on the people that are suffering now. To suggest that it does is the height of stupidity.

53 posted on 01/15/2010 11:22:42 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
...A pact made 200 years ago by a few desperate men has no bearing on the people that are suffering now.

You didn’t make a statement as to your personal beliefs with respect to the veracity of scripture but let me just say that there are many references throughout the Bible of how the actions and beliefs of people in a current age will have an effect on their future age....not just on a personal level but to their family, descendents etc.

Psalm 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.

Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

54 posted on 01/15/2010 11:35:12 AM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("Sooner or later in life, we all sit down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Asfarastheeastisfromthewest...
"Genesis 18: 22 – 33: God determines to destroy Sodom. Abraham argues with God, reminding God that God must live by the moral rules God established, and asks if God would destroy the guilty along with the innocent if Sodom had fifty innocent people. God says that, if there are fifty such people, the whole will be forgiven for their sake. Abraham continues haggling, bargaining God down to saving the entire city for the sake only ten innocent people. God agrees, “I will not destroy, for the sake of ten.”

Go to the New Testament - Jesus' teaching shows God's mercy for the individual even more clearly.

Too bad Pat didn't have this on his mind the other day.

55 posted on 01/15/2010 11:40:34 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Siena Dreaming

I have to say, as a former member of CBN, that Pat is a gold digger, and has used the Lord as a cover in his quest for personal wealth. He lied over and over to secure gold and diamonds for himself. It is true. He has blood on his hands in Liberia. Oh, I am sure that Robertson thinks in his heart that he is actually building God’s kingdom with his money...but one does not insult the Lord and the Lord’s laws, to build ones earthly kingdom, which assists God’s kingdom!

I also have to say that Robertson showed his true regard for God’s laws, when he came out and supported Guiliani for President. Guiliani who supports abortion, gay marriage and who himself is a serial adulterer.

Pat Robertson has not done one thing for anyone. Jesus Christ and the power of His Gospel have worked in people’s lives despite Pat Robertson.


56 posted on 01/15/2010 11:42:06 AM PST by tuckrdout ("Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: tuckrdout
First of all, Hispaniola was the Pearl of the Antilles, not the nation of Haiti. And I guess when you have a country where 90% of the population are slaves and you punish them by boiling them in molasses or feeding them to starving dogs, you can expect things to go south. It is a fact.
57 posted on 01/15/2010 11:43:13 AM PST by stormer
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To: ZGuy
Pat just said what many, many people already knew. Bible believers know there are consequences for deviant spiritual practice.

It is the Devil who seeks to steal, kill and destroy not the Lord. It is Jesus who comes to give life and life abundantly.

58 posted on 01/15/2010 11:48:49 AM PST by hope
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Go to the New Testament - Jesus' teaching shows God's mercy for the individual even more clearly.

You didn't point to a specific reference in the New Testament to support your point but I don't believe there is actually a conflict between the two... a difference but not a conflict. God hated sin in the Old Testament and he still hated sin the New Testatment. Likewise God blessed those who followed his ways in the Old Testament and he continues to bless those who follow Jesus Christ in the New Testament age.

59 posted on 01/15/2010 11:50:55 AM PST by Asfarastheeastisfromthewest... ("Sooner or later in life, we all sit down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: ZGuy
Then a negative story comes out about Pat Robertson and most of the Freepers don't bother to honestly investigate, but

No investigation is necessary. We've been here before how many times? Some tragedy happens. Robertson says something unbelievably stupid.

When you get email from Nigeria, do you think a thorough investigation is necessary to determine if it's a scam or not? Or, do you consider the source, and reach a proper conclusion based on everything else you know about that source? Emailers from Nigera are cons. Roberson is a fool of biblical proportions.

The rule to follow with Robertson is this: If it's coming out of his mouth, it is gobsmackingly disgraceful and an embarrassment to all Christians and conservatives everywhere. What ever he is saying should be ridiculed and dismissed before the sound waves hit your ear, lest you end up being associated with him in any way.

60 posted on 01/15/2010 1:26:41 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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