[dirtboy]

William F. Buckley never won an election either. What point are you trying to make?

Keyes has run for statewide office ... three times for the Senate. And lost big-time each time. Buckley ran once for NYC mayor and did not expect to win - he ran more as a lark. The point is, Brown DID win, Keyes never has. And Brown winning is gonna put a serious hurting on the liberal agenda - something Keyes has never accomplished. So at the end of the day, winning DOES matter.

[Carling]

Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins have also won elections. Same with John McCain and Chuck Hagel. Lots of good that has done the “conservative movement”.