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McCain says campaign finance reform is dead
Breitbart (AP) ^ | Janaury 24, 2010

Posted on 01/24/2010 9:59:44 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. John McCain says the movement he led to reform how political campaigns are financed is dead.

McCain says the Supreme Court has spoken on the constitutionality of political contributions by corporations. The Arizona Republican had sought to regulate them with a landmark campaign finance law he wrote with Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaignfinance; cfr; constitution; mccain; mccainfeingolf; scotus
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To: Ditto

Guess you missed the SCOTUS decision this week - or else you are expecting it to be over-turned in the future?


41 posted on 01/24/2010 12:39:45 PM PST by Enchante (Mr. Brown Goes to Washington...... kick a@@, take names, and scorch all the bastards, please!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Ding dong, the bill is dead!
The stupid bill. It just got killed.
‘cause SCOTUS went and smacked it on the head!
It’s gone where Jim Crow laws are now
Below below below
And now at last, the pernicious bill is dead!


42 posted on 01/24/2010 12:52:33 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Also, the bigger the contribution, the more extensive the disclosure. A million dollars is legal, but you have to also state your employer, any corporations in which you own more than 5% equity or debt, or sit on the board of directors or are an officer, and any ties to foreign governments or non-profit organizations. A billion dollars is legal, but you have to make your tax returns public as well. A trillion dollars is legal, but...


43 posted on 01/24/2010 12:57:16 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yeah, he picked Sara Palin and made her a national figure. He also stayed imprisoned in North Vietnam when he was offered an early out on account of his daddy.


44 posted on 01/24/2010 1:00:10 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (www.publishedauthors.net/benmaxwell/index.html, http://sites.google.com/site/thevuzvuz/)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Oh, so the word got back to you, huh, John?

Yeah, that USSC finally does have a say in it after all these years. Told you if was unconstitutional as soon as you guys came up with the damn thing.


45 posted on 01/24/2010 1:04:41 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

John, please switch parties.


46 posted on 01/24/2010 1:04:54 PM PST by DungeonMaster (A Christian Democrat is better than a heathen Republican)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Juan is still looking for hands to shake across the aisle...his ‘friends’. Why don’t you try sticking your hand in a bag of snakes, Juan? You’ll end up with the same result.


47 posted on 01/24/2010 1:07:22 PM PST by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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To: rabscuttle385

So the First Amendment’s protection of political speech has been restored.

Cool.


48 posted on 01/24/2010 1:59:26 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Ditto

Free speech that involves financial expenditures to get a bigger audience for that free speech is still free speech.


49 posted on 01/24/2010 2:02:06 PM PST by Dr. North
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To: Ditto
Fictitious entities, be it a corporation, union or political action committee or whatever do not have that same right to speak for an individual. Those entities are free to speak to their individual members and urge them to give money to politicians, but they do not have a right force their members to donate to a politicians (i.e. put words in their mouth.) That decision should be left to the individual..

Individuals have the right to contribute to a political action committee, or not. They have the right to own or buy stock in a corporation, or not. Presently they have the right to work for a union represented business, or not. How are the forced to contribute?

50 posted on 01/24/2010 2:17:23 PM PST by Upstate NY Guy
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To: JPG

McCain accomplished absolutely nothing of any real value to the US while in the Senate. He needs to go and kick back in an Arizona retirement community or some other form of “Heaven’s Waiting Room”. “Reaching across the aisle” is for proctologists not senators.


51 posted on 01/24/2010 3:07:31 PM PST by libertyhoundusnr
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To: Cheap_Hessian
The RINO-in-Chief fought the First Amendment and (ultimately) the First Amendment won.

Thank you to Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas and Alito. Also, thank you to everyone to Citizens United and everyone who assisted it in defending Freedom of Speech.

52 posted on 01/24/2010 3:14:37 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Some one tell McCain he is a failure.


53 posted on 01/24/2010 3:19:02 PM PST by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: CRBDeuce

Ole Johnny is just full of billgerent ideas! Kill political free speech! Cap and trade. Amnesty. Diversity racism. Bankster bailouts. Closing GITMO. He was for nationalized Romneycare (before the tea parties) before he was against it (after the tea parties.)

Gee, he’s such a DNC idea man!


54 posted on 01/24/2010 4:26:50 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Cheap_Hessian; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
McCain says campaign finance reform is dead

Do we thank him now - or later?

55 posted on 01/24/2010 4:47:56 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Deo volente

“...but comprehensive immigration reform is still very much alive!”

I actually went to the article to search for that phrase. I would not have been all that shocked if it was there, McCain is that off kilter.


56 posted on 01/24/2010 7:19:45 PM PST by avenir
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To: Ditto
Every citizen has the right to free speech. Fictitious entities, be it a corporation, union or political action committee or whatever do not have that same right to speak for an individual.

I'm afraid that you're just wrong on this. Read the 1st Amendment again. It doesn't say anything about a difference between individual rights and group rights.

The plain language of the 1st Amendment says what it says. You're interpreting it to mean what you want it to mean, and dubbing in something that it does not state.

If the members of a corporation want to put money toward promoting a candidate for office, or contribute to that candidate's campaign, then under our Constitution, they have every right to do so.

My wife and I, and one other partner happen to be a corporation of just three people. Are you saying that people like us should not have the right to speak out in support of a candidate, or spend our money to support them because we're legally incorporated?

That would be absurd. Where do you draw the line in your reasoning?

57 posted on 01/24/2010 8:12:24 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Soothesayer9
Its kind of funny looking back..during the election a lot of the comments on this thread would have gotten one banned for insulting the Mighty Morphin McCain..and yet now, nothing but loathing for him.

And you know this, even though you only signed up on July 26th 2009?

58 posted on 01/24/2010 8:26:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: avenir

Sorry, I forgot the “sarcasm” tag.

But you’re right...McCain really IS that far off kilter!


59 posted on 01/24/2010 9:52:58 PM PST by Deo volente (January 19, 2010...the Second American Revolution begins, right where it all started!)
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To: Enchante
Guess you missed the SCOTUS decision this week - or else you are expecting it to be over-turned in the future?

" I guess you ought to read it. The Court said that a corporation can run an ad, but they still can not give money to politicians. The unions can still give money to pols and still run ads. Considering that corporations are adverse to pissing off a large segment of their customers, how many ads do you think they will run. Or taken the other way, if you are a corporation looking for a government contract, what do you think the politicians will lean on you for?

I think either can say any damn thing they want, but neither should be allowed to give money (by definition, other people's money) to politicians.

All the money Unions or Corporations would spend is in the end some other person's money. Ergo, money should only be allowed from individual citizens, not corporations, unions, organizations or any other incorporated group.

60 posted on 01/25/2010 8:25:57 PM PST by Ditto (Directions for Clean Government: If they are in, vote them out. Rinse and repeat.)
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