[AndyTheBear]

It is the excuse that religionists in general and you in particular use to ignore either reason or evidence. Instead, you throw up your hands and willfully abandon both in favor of "magical thinking."

Ignoring reason and evidence? But not pejorative. A technical term...like calling me an anti-Semite? Got it. You sure have credibility.

How about you stop thinking of yourself as infallible and start being honest?

[EnderWiggins]

"Ignoring reason and evidence? But not pejorative. A technical term...like calling me an anti-Semite? Got it. You sure have credibility."

See... you are trying to serve two masters here. And that is why you keep earning labels that you find offensive even when they're not.

On one hand you want to pretend you are a rational person who values reason and evidence. But at the same time you want to embrace a "super-naturalistic" world view in which reason and evidence is meaningless since there is no cause and effect and anything can come from nothing.

No wonder you are so confused, and no wonder your attempts at argument continuously swallow their own tales.

Which is it, Andy? Are you a naturalist who accepts that nothing comes from nothing, or are you a super-naturalist who believes that cause and effect is just a sometimes thing?

As long as you try to keep your feet in both camps you will never be able to assemble a coherent argument.