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Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?


3 posted on 02/06/2010 10:40:35 AM PST by 1raider1
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"Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?"

No, he's saying that there are other management methods than layoffs that appear to have superior results. Better to become "lean and mean" BEFORE layoffs might be needed, and not have layoffs. Well-managed companies don't need layoffs.

11 posted on 02/06/2010 10:49:14 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?

I don't think so. But it is true that layoffs cause a climate of fear in the work place and that fear tends to result in lower productivity.

Now a few well places firings can have the opposite result.

20 posted on 02/06/2010 10:53:57 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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>>Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?

It’s more complicated than that and I hope you know it. Employees aren’t meat robots that can be used and discarded and jobs aren’t a lifetime entitlement either. There has to be some middle ground where we can work together.

When I was an industrial electrician in a factory, the company announced that there “might” be layoffs. I mailed out resumes and found a new job. On the day after they announced that 1/3 of the plant’s labor force would be laid off in two months, I gave my two weeks notice.

The plant manager called me in and YELLED at me for letting him down because, “with these staff cuts, I’ll need your expertise (as an automation programmer) more than ever.” (He had announced the day before that I was in the group that would still have a job for 6-12 more months). I told him that it’s nothing personal and that it’s just business (the exact phrase he had used the previous day), but he still said that he felt betrayed.


28 posted on 02/06/2010 10:59:09 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Imagine a day when the politicians have to hold a bake sale to pay for votes!)
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To: 1raider1
Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?

I think if you read the article correctly, it does not say that people have a "right" to a job. It is making an observation --- That over-reliance on layoffs to increase a company's bottom line is short sighted and backfires. There are many tools in a management's arsenal to increase bottom line, but layoffs should not be seen as one of the top tools to use.

I'd like to see someone refute the studies cited by the author.
52 posted on 02/06/2010 11:40:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Are you saying that people should have a “right” to a job and that companies should keep them on the payroll no matter how much it affects the firm negatively?

I think what they are saying is that companies who lay workers off to cut costs and boost profits usually do neither.

84 posted on 02/06/2010 12:56:42 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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