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The Iranian revolution grinds to a halt on the eve of its anniversary
Guardian UK ^ | Robert Tait

Posted on 02/08/2010 10:52:10 AM PST by nuconvert

Thirty-one years ago this week, Ayatollah Khomeini returned to Tehran after 15 years in exile. The anniversary is usually marked by triumphant rallies. Not this time: protesters are planning mass demonstrations against a regime they say has betrayed Islamic ideals.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; iranianrevolution; khomeini; tait

1 posted on 02/08/2010 10:52:10 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Good luck to them. I believe Iran’s leaders will cause a nuclear meltdown and suicide bomb their own populace before they let go of power.


2 posted on 02/08/2010 11:05:14 AM PST by FreeLuna
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To: nuconvert

> protesters are planning mass demonstrations against a
> regime they say has betrayed Islamic ideals.

Since Mohammed the “prophet” is Islam’s “ideal man”, whose life every Mohammedan aspires to emulate, I must deduce that Islamic ideals include piracy, rape, murder, torture, treachery, lying, stealing, plundering, truce-breaking, slave trading, polygamy, adultery, and pedophilia.

This is the reason that Islam’s greatest achievements are measuered in numbers of people killed, maimed, and tortured.


3 posted on 02/08/2010 11:06:25 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: nuconvert
What happened to the country after the revolution sounds a great deal like what's happening to America after Obama’s election. All that hope and trust, and then they learned the new leader was just using them to work his plan. Sound familiar?
4 posted on 02/08/2010 11:08:31 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: nuconvert

Interesting article and analysis. I have begun to wonder, in light of all the negative “air” around the Islamic State and it’s radical Arab ties, if the current regime does fold if the people will want to distance themselves from the last two and go back to a Persian identification.

This in light of the outing of the long kept secret the name of the country was changed at the request of Hitler’s people in which Iran is actually translated as Aryan. Iran was an ally of Nazi Germany during WWII.


5 posted on 02/08/2010 11:11:47 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov. - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77

>>>”This in light of the outing of the long kept secret the name of the country was changed at the request of Hitler’s people in which Iran is actually translated as Aryan. Iran was an ally of Nazi Germany during WWII.”

Source plz?


6 posted on 02/08/2010 3:38:51 PM PST by odds
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To: mazda77
Iran was never allied with Nazi Germany.

The allies were worried that the Shah might have Nazi sympathies. When the Brits demanded he expel German nationals (there were large numbers, and Germany was a major trading partner) because they feared the presence of spies who might sabotage oil fields, the Shah refused. The Americans wanted to transship war supplies to Russia across Iran. And so the Brits and Russia jointly invaded Iran in '42 (IIRC) and the Shah abdicated in favor of his son (the Shah who Jimmah Catah would later betray) and then Iran joined the allies. But before that they were neutral.

7 posted on 02/08/2010 4:25:11 PM PST by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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To: odds
I know wiki is not a good source but for a quickie perhaps I'll dig up some more. I first heard of this while stationed in Teheran from 72-74 from some of the locals.

"The name "Persia" until 1935 was the "official" name of Iran in the Western world, but Persian people inside their country since the Sassanid period (226–651 A.D.) have called it "Iran" meaning "the land of Aryans". The Proto-Iranian term for Iran is reconstructed as *Aryānām (the genitive plural of the word *Arya) and the Avestan equivalent is "Airyanem" (as in Airyanem Vaejah). On 21 March 1935, the ruler of the country, Reza Shah Pahlavi, issued a decree asking foreign delegates to use the term Iran in formal correspondence. Some believe he made this decision in order to be closer to Germany, by trying to emphasize the Aryan connection between Hitler's idealistic German Aryan race and the Persian Aryan race, given that "Iran" means "land of Aryans", at a time where the German empire was slowly becoming an unstoppable superpower. Some other believed he changed "Persia" to "Iran" to present a new and modern face of the country in the world." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_naming…

8 posted on 02/08/2010 4:54:17 PM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov. - JD Hayworth - US Senate)
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To: mazda77; Stultis

Thanks. Wiki isn’t too bad & often provides external references.

>>>” I first heard of this while stationed in Teheran from 72-74 from some of the locals.”

Do you mean regarding “Iran being an ally of Nazi Germany” ? If yes, then it is plain Wrong. “Stultis” in post #7 gives a good, be it brief, account. Btw, there were only about a 1000 German nationals in Iran at the time. This number is apparently based on reports by British Embassy in Tehran in 1940.

Also, I do wonder who those “locals” were. You may already know that political agitation, disinformation & propaganda against the Pahlavis began at least 7 years before the actual revolution of 1979.

>>>” Reza Shah Pahlavi, issued a decree asking foreign delegates to use the term Iran in formal correspondence. Some believe he made this decision in order to be closer to Germany, by trying to emphasize the Aryan connection between Hitler’s idealistic German Aryan race and the Persian Aryan race,..”

Ok, this is at best anecdotal. I am looking for Actual evidence which clearly provides proof that Reza Shah issued a decree for name change based on “Nazi requests”. Is there one? I haven’t found one as yet.

You’re right. There is tons of info about Etymology of Iran vs. Persia. Iran has always been the correct name for Iran (Eran) – regardless of Nazis or Germans in general. It refers to Aryan race & Language of those tribes originating from central Asia, who settled in the plateau of Iran circa 2000 B.C. Persia, on the other hand, only refers to one province of Iran (was called “Persis” by the Greeks centuries ago during Cyrus the Great). In Persian was called “Pars or Parsa”. Today it is called the “Fars” province (only changed after Arab-Muslim invasion of Iran).

I think it is important to clarify the above because many mullah (IRI) supporters use this name-change deliberately & often cleverly focus on the term “Aryan” to be divisive, misleading and portray the “Persian” ethnic group in Iran as racist. Equally, they are well aware that for Westerners, the term “Aryan” is immediately associated with Hitler and Nazi Germany.


9 posted on 02/08/2010 5:52:32 PM PST by odds
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Last bit of relevant info: During the Pahlavi Dynasty, many Europeans (especially those from Poland), many Jewish by faith, were issued Iranian passports, and allowed to immigrate to Iran & be protected when the Nazis began to round up Jews in Europe as part of “Final Solution”. Moreover, the Nazis were told by Iranian authorities that Iranian-Jews were Iranians like every other Iranian citizen – Iranian passports during the Pahlavis did not specify “religion”. So, this is hardly the behavior or action of a so-called “Nazi Ally”.

http://www.vohuman.org/Article/Many%20Polish%20Boys%20were%20named%20Dariusz.htm

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8745

http://iranvajahan.net/cgi-bin/news.pl?l=en&y=2007&m=11&d=03&a=6


10 posted on 02/08/2010 5:53:33 PM PST by odds
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