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On Health Bill, G.O.P.’s Road Is a New Map (No Deal Until The Current Bill Is Scrapped)
NY Times ^ | 2/8/2010 | ROBERT PEAR and DAVID M. HERSZENHORN

Posted on 02/09/2010 3:43:30 AM PST by tobyhill

When Republicans take President Obama up on his invitation to hash out their differences over health care this month, they will carry with them a fairly well-developed set of ideas intended to make health insurance more widely available and affordable, by emphasizing tax incentives and state innovations, with no new federal mandates and only a modest expansion of the federal safety net.

It is not clear that Republicans and the White House are willing to negotiate seriously with each other, and Mr. Obama has rejected Republican demands that he start from scratch in developing health care legislation.

But Congressional Republicans have laid out principles and alternatives that provide a road map to what a Republican health care bill would look like if they had the power to decide the outcome.

The different approaches will be on display Feb. 25, when lawmakers from both parties are scheduled to go to Blair House, across the street from the White House, for a televised clash of health policy ideas.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; commiecare; deathcare; farce; gop; gophealthcare; healthcare; nothealthcare; obama; obamacare; republicans
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1 posted on 02/09/2010 3:43:30 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Over-under on when they fold?


2 posted on 02/09/2010 4:08:07 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: tobyhill

If the ‘Pubbies choose
To enter the Lion’s Den,
They best be prepared...

The voters want them
To start over on health care.
This should be our plan.

Keep up the drum-beat.
We’ll meet with the President,
If he’ll start over.

This is good strategy and good politics. The people do not like the Democrat plans currently working their way through Congress. The Republicans must keep up the drum-beat. These plans are unacceptable,and we have to start over.

Then when the President tries to paint them as being obstructionist, he will look like a fool because he is left clinging the the plans which everybody hates.


3 posted on 02/09/2010 4:13:43 AM PST by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave.)
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To: TomGuy

Why would they fold? Have have the people on their side. Unless and until that changes, it’s Obama that will have to fold.


4 posted on 02/09/2010 4:19:15 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: tobyhill

Republicans should simply “stay away” from Healthcare Summit. The truth of the matter is that the president and the dem,ocrats have made the healthcare issue radioactive. Voters absolutely hate what the Dems tried to do and want all healthcare bills stopped until they can get to the voting booth in November and alter the makeup of the congress. Then, next year the newly reconstituted congress can take a stab at a healthcare reform that is more representative of what the people want.


5 posted on 02/09/2010 4:29:54 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: tobyhill

The current health care legislation has got to be scrapped, all 2000 pages. Keep it simple, keep it equitable without sweet heart deals, address the costs not directly related to health care such as tort reform.


6 posted on 02/09/2010 4:30:24 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: tobyhill

NO HEALTHCARE BILL AT ALL! WHAT IS THERE TO DISCUSS?


7 posted on 02/09/2010 4:30:55 AM PST by albie
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To: tobyhill
In a letter to the White House on Monday, the top two House Republicans, Representatives John A. Boehner of Ohio and Eric Cantor of Virginia, said members of their party would be “reluctant to participate” in the meeting with Mr. Obama if the bills passed by the House and the Senate were the starting point. The American people have “soundly rejected” those bills, they said.

Odd that this is all the NY Slimes would print about the GOP's response to Zer0's invite.

...or maybe not so odd, afterall.

8 posted on 02/09/2010 5:29:32 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: tobyhill
It is not clear that Republicans and the White House are willing to negotiate seriously with each other, and Mr. Obama has rejected Republican demands that he start from scratch in developing health care legislation.

They aren't serious. Neither side is. Each side is only looking for a campaign issue that they can use against the other.

9 posted on 02/09/2010 5:36:07 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: tobyhill

Frankly no bill is better than ANYTHING currently on the table...

these guys make the only sense I’ve heard out of a politican’s mouth in years

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/02/07/charting_our_way_to_solvency_100195.html

and I’m cynical enough to believe if it weren’t for the TeaParty...we’d never had even heard this much from either of them...the Republicrat party would’ve smothered them.


10 posted on 02/09/2010 5:40:48 AM PST by mo
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To: tobyhill

How about no health bill at all? Whatever happens in DC will just make things worse.


11 posted on 02/09/2010 5:44:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: ricks_place
Keep it simple, keep it equitable without sweet heart deals, address the costs not directly related to health care such as tort reform.

And take a scalpel to the massive new bureaucracies in the current bills.

12 posted on 02/09/2010 6:00:10 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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13 posted on 02/09/2010 6:02:18 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: albie

Tort reform

Interstate health insurance policies

Decouple health insurance from employment

Allow doctors who take medicare/medicaid the freedom to price their products.


14 posted on 02/09/2010 6:06:30 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: ALPAPilot
Decouple health insurance from employment

What about those who have medical insurance as a part of a retirement package from an employer?

15 posted on 02/09/2010 6:14:35 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; onyx; maggief; GOPJ; hoosiermama; STARWISE; SE Mom; sickoflibs; ...
The Ohaha mob can't seem to hide their elitist contempt for Americans. They actually think Americans don't understand what calculating manipulators they are. Watta buncha jerks.

LOL. This about sums it up.

16 posted on 02/09/2010 6:17:25 AM PST by Liz (A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat nearby.)
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To: albie

“NO HEALTHCARE BILL AT ALL! WHAT IS THERE TO DISCUSS?”

Interstate competition

Tort Reform

Anything else, and the Dims will”modify” it with Obama Care.


17 posted on 02/09/2010 7:37:24 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Liz

Obama: “If I’m goin down, I ain’t goin down alone!”


18 posted on 02/09/2010 7:38:30 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: tobyhill
with no new federal mandates and only a modest expansion of the federal safety net.

The above statement is what is wrong with this whole idea. There should be no government expansion period. The GOP needs to nix the idea of any government control in health insurance and health care. Fix the tort laws, repeal the law making it impossible to buy insurance across state lines. AND THAT IS IT!. Nothing else needs to be done except for gradually phasing out Medicare and SS.

The GOP misses the whole point of the protest against nationalized health care, and that is that the American people simply don't want it!

19 posted on 02/09/2010 7:47:31 AM PST by calex59
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To: TomGuy
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees for 2-3 years. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Socialized Med Thread

20 posted on 02/09/2010 7:54:16 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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