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Mark Levin: I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he
Mark Levin Fan ^ | February 21, 2010 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 02/21/2010 1:14:06 PM PST by Sergeant Tim

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To: sodpoodle
The TEA movement has no charismatic leader - and Glenn Beck should not assume that mantle.

This IS THE NUTSHELL of Levin's political issue with Beck. He doesnt believe that the former should be promoting himself as the leader or instigator of the Tea Party Movement, nor should he take any credit for its successes.

Levin has here expressed concern that this potential self-ordained "leader" may not have a cohesive political/philosophical policy with which to lead the Tea Party. And that is a valid concern.
441 posted on 02/21/2010 4:39:27 PM PST by Canedawg (FUBO! Just FUBO.)
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To: pissant

LOL!


442 posted on 02/21/2010 4:40:17 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: reaganaut; greyfoxx39

I lived through that Mormon/John Birch era. In those days I didn’t even know the church was questionable let alone Skousen. Trouble was that when you go to meetings with people whose eyes are already glazed over with Mormonism and the big shots whom you respected the day before all started looking and sounding like Glenn Beck, it was cause for concern.

Maybe that’s why I see through him.

BTW Mormon American Conservative Author is very forgiving description for that off the charts right wing fundamentalist who was also probably a polygamist.


443 posted on 02/21/2010 4:41:17 PM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Freeper Picnic in Planning)
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To: Catsrus; restornu; billhilly
"BOR a conservative?"

To the msm he is, plus he's on the right wing extremist channel.
444 posted on 02/21/2010 4:41:52 PM PST by JoSixChip (HOPE = Have Obumber Prove Eligibility)
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To: ohioWfan
you could see the anger in his eyes when she refused to denounce the Republican party

And he took his anger out commenting about her later. That's EXACTLY what Beck is after - 3rd party. I can't believe that is some kind of hidden secret.
445 posted on 02/21/2010 4:41:53 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Ghengis; Terpfen
"Personality preferences aside, you put Beck and Levin at the same show: Beck sucks up all of the oxygen. Beck attracts the crowds. Beck gets all of the soundbites. Beck grabs 90% of the headlines.
Levin knows that and it rankles him every waking moment of his life right now."

Nonsense! - - Ailes tried to get Levin to do a program on Fox, and he refused. Beck is third or fourth choice there.
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446 posted on 02/21/2010 4:42:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Sergeant Tim
Mark Levin is absolutely correct when he says a third party would be our downfall.

What he is trying to get across to us is that we ARE making progress getting our message thru to the Republican idiots we elected that they should either shape up or we'll ship them out.

Given the choice between believing what Mark Levin is saying vs Glenn Becks foaming at the mouth rants, Mark wins in this house hold hands down.

FReeper Levin, is The Great One.

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447 posted on 02/21/2010 4:43:11 PM PST by spectre ( Spectre's wife)
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To: TNdandelion
if he means liberal republicans....say liberal republicans

You've got a point there... to a degree.

But the problem isn't just "liberal Republicans".

The problem is STUPID Republicans. Republicans who cave at the last minute just to appear BIPARTISAN so that the media will "like" them (which they never do) and so that they will be FRIENDS with everyone on "the hill".

I know ohioWfan will hate me for saying this but W was at least sometimes in that category. He did some very, very stupid things the motivation for which was completely beyond me and which I can only attribute to that horrible and hateful urge to be BIPARTISAN.

And if you think only "liberal Republicans" suffer from the BIPARTISAN disease, you are mistaken.

The only politicians who are absolutely free of the plague of "bipartisanship" are the democrats.

In that sense we should be more like them.

448 posted on 02/21/2010 4:43:53 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Sergeant Tim
uh oh.

fissure

cracks

The LIBS will LOVVVVVVE this and will go to down on this and work with backhoes if they have to to make this gap as wide as possible and engineer internecine fighting.

449 posted on 02/21/2010 4:44:34 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: restornu

Governor Sarah Palin Supported the Bailout?

It has falsely been implied that Governor Sarah Palin supported the Bailout. You may have seen this: “Sarah Palin: Bailout or Great Depression. Choose.”

Yet again, another statement that sounds damning as is. But what did Governor Sarah Palin actually say about it? Let’s see for ourselves.

Couric: “If this [bailout] doesn’t pass, do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?”

Governor Sarah Palin: “Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it’s been proposed, has to pass or we’re gonna find ourselves in another Great Depression. But there has to be action taken, bipartisan effort . . .” (source)

“Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on”

That doesn’t sound like “The Sky Is Falling!” to me.

“Not necessarily this, as it’s been proposed . . . “

Wow! Some solid support for the Bailout there! /Sarcasm Off

“But there has to be action taken . . . “

Okay. Congress should do something. We never do get the details from the Couric interview of what Governor Palin thinks should be done, but there is no resounding support for the Bailout here. None unless your world is filtered through PDS goggles.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:0m2dQZcCOzIJ:newsbusters.org/forums/topic-discussion/governor-sarah-palin-supported-bailout-28326+%22palin%22%2B%22bailout%22&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


450 posted on 02/21/2010 4:44:34 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: BuckyKat; All

I agree about Beck being everywhere. This could end up being over-kill. When the public gets saturated with somebody, they usually tire of it quickly.

The sad thing is that Beck is teaching the American public what the schools have not taught them. The things he brings out have long been hidden from the public.

I agree he’s all over the place .. but I believe I can tell you why. He’s still considered a “new believer” .. even if he’s a Mormon. Sadly, there’s a lot of renewing of the mind that has to take place, which accounts for his glorification of his drunkeness. Eventually, he will begin to loathe it and that will be the turning point. That’s when a calmness comes over you.

All this fame seems to be kind of distracting him from just teaching The Constitution and how we’re so far from where we should be in understanding our history.

I like watching his show because he has some really informed guests and there is no arguing - just information.

I do hope Levin is wrong about Beck wanting a third party; I agree with Levin, the idea is not good. While it might be more difficult to overtake the GOP, it’s a much better plan than trying to start another party.


451 posted on 02/21/2010 4:45:47 PM PST by CyberAnt (Our RIGHTS are given to us by GOD; not Congress or the President)
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To: faucetman; a02001
I agree with those asking what is wrong with the “Birchers”. All I’ve seen so far is “they are BAD”, and “they USED TO BE BAD”. “they used to be communists” while they appear not to be. How about some specifics? How about some evidence?

Unfortunately, the evidence is massive, convincing, and doesn't support the positions of the Birch haters, so they don't bring it up.
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452 posted on 02/21/2010 4:46:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: spectre
An inert, ball-less, Socialist-lite Second Party will also be our downfall. But i think the fire that has been lit under their ass this year with Tea Parties and Beck is waking them up, thank goodness. There may stil be time!

I also wonder how many on this thread were Bushbots, "Day in the Life of President Bush" or Republican-Firster (i.e. would vote for a RINO Republican over a Conservative independent in a three way race) types in the past. Just a wild guess, I guess.

453 posted on 02/21/2010 4:48:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: editor-surveyor
Beck isn't addressing any issue. He doesn't see the issues that we see. He wants to be a voice, but has no idea what that voice should say, and is envious and distrustful of those that are conversant on all the issues, like Rush, Sarah, and Mark. He is particularly envious of Sarah Palin's ability to draw crowds on a moments notice.

Respectfully, I need to split your comment down the middle. He is addressing an issue -- the biggest issue we face politically in both 2010 and 2012. The main opposition to Obamunism, the Republican Party, is not equipped with the political compass it needs to succeed. I feel this is a deliberate decision and so does Beck.

As for your the rest of your comments, though, I tend to agree. Beck is an entertainer and this clearly shows through in his approach to what he does.

454 posted on 02/21/2010 4:49:10 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: beaversmom

Levin doesn’t like that kind of thing to begin with. He’s a family man; I don’t blame him. God bless Levin. And God bless Beck too, although Glenn needs to read a chapter of Machiavelli [I’ll post next].

“Beck spent precious little time aiming fire at Obama-Pelosi-Reid in his speech, and it is they who are destroying our country.”

Amen Levin!


455 posted on 02/21/2010 4:49:18 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Farah: "If [certifigate]'s been settled show us the birth certificate. Simple.")
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To: holdonnow; All
If"conservatives"are going to continue the circular firing squad when the Dems,progressives and media do their own sniping,.....

Usually in the broadcast business the eleventh commandment is to speak no evil about your comrades. Michael Savage has broken the rule and is routinely snubbed by many of the bigger talkers from Mark to Rush to Hannity.

I don't see Glen Beck as another Savage, IMHO.

Is he a bit disorganized from time to time,yes of course.

However,does he have all the qualities that make for a good show from a stellar voice,to a brilliant sense of humor,to an in-depth use of the medium?Yes.

In addition he has a genuinely incredible delivery of many topics that is so good he does bring some in the audience and himself to tears from time to time.

Is that a no no in broadcasting, hardly. It just shows the depth of his convictions and in Beck's case the depth of research he has done.

All in all I see no reason for the circular firing squad or the petty squabbling about Beck. Most of us that watched that speech were deeply effected by it.It was from the heart,with just the barest of notes and you could tell that he had done tons of research.

There were so many great points brought out that we will be quoting from it for a long time. Would I rather that he blasted zero more and did tell the difference between dems and us? Of course.

But is he entitled to his own delivery and his own brand of logic,obviously yes. Other wise people would be turning the dial in droves and yet just the opposite is happening.

Can we give Glen Beck a break please!

456 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:06 PM PST by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Absolutely right, but they have to be replaced by someone, who can spend a couple of nights a week at various meetings, making things happen. If you don't see yourself as one of those 'someones' how will this happen?

On that, I agree. I'm doing something that I never thought I would be doing - getting physically involved. I've been going to monthly tea party meetings as well as a couple of other conservative group meetings when my schedule allows. A LOT of republicans are present, and they're starting to listen. I've been writing letters to the various politicians over the last several years, and I've attended a handful of city council meetings but I've stepped up the pace over the last 10 months or so.

I'm no politician, and I make no bones about it. I'm as apt to punch a liberal in the mouth as to debate him. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't be getting more connected with the activities that we need to do to take the party back from those psuedo-conservatives running the party.

I am one that thinks that Glen Beck is doing a tremendous job of motivating people. He is certainly one of the small handful of voices to which I pay attention. He has apparently angered some, but if that anger is directed in the right direction (hint - not back at Beck), it will help immensely.

I don't like the republican leadership, and I don't like more than half of the republicans involved at the national level right now. But some stand out as great people, and I will support those people. I've supported Jim DeMint and I am supporting Jim Kasich in Ohio, Marco Rubio in Florida, and JD Hayworth in Arizona. I can't vote for any of them, but I can send a few dollars to their campaigns. If a few conservatives beat RINO incumbents in the primary race, that will help immensely.

457 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:16 PM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Its all a fierce, free market ratings war anways, at the end of the day. They want the people to listen to ME!!!! on the radio, or no, no, no, listen and watch ME!!! on the TV, during those times slots. Pure free market competitive business. I can handle it.


458 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:42 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Its time to CLEARLY threaten a huge, middle-class American TAX REVOLT in Tea Party signs & placards)
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To: newnhdad
The Republicans, for the most part, are a much better representation of American society.

Not currently, when the big ones at the top are mostly RINO's. However, if we run enough of the RINO's out in the next elections, it can become a "much better representation of American society" and conservative values as well.

459 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:46 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Freedom of the Press?! I need Freedom FROM THE PRESS!)
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To: sloop
" ... has he ever been involved in politics other than as an observer?"

Do you remember Beck's Rallies for America back in 2003? Huge rallies against the anti-American left in 17 cities in the spring of 2003. At the Atlanta rally, Beck drew a crowd of 25,000 people to Centennial Olympic Park.

What about Beck's 9-12 Project? Three weeks after Rick Santelli's rant, Beck launched the 9-12 Project which ultimately inspired the Taxpayer March on Washington. Beck was an early leader in the anti-Obama, anti-Tax protest movement.

460 posted on 02/21/2010 4:51:56 PM PST by magellan
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