Hmmm, okay maybe I was a little strong, you may not be lying, but you are mistaken, the Savage anti-Levin bunch as you call them were not pinged to this thread because there is no such pinglist. There's a Savage pinglist but that one was not pinged, but even if it had pls note that just because one listens to Savage does not automatically make them anti-Levin. I have no problems with facts as long as they reflect 'what is the truth'.
The group are mostly one in the same people