Posted on 02/22/2010 12:34:13 PM PST by Rummyfan
The game of chicken commenceth — right now.
In the course of unveiling Obama’s new health reform proposal on a conference call with reporters this morning, White House advisers made it clearer than ever before: If the GOP filibusters health reform, Dems will move forward on their own and pass it via reconciliation.
The assertion, which is likely to spark an angry response from GOP leaders, ups the stakes in advance of the summit by essentially daring Republicans to try to block reform.
“The President expects and believes the American people deserve an up or down vote on health reform,” White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer said on the call.
(Excerpt) Read more at theplumline.whorunsgov.com ...
Wanna bet?
When is the last time an entitlement program, agency, or department was un-done, cut, or eliminated?
Answer: "Never."
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
Sen. Scot Brown's number is 202-224-5443
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.
Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.
The American people deserved an up or down vote on Miguel Estrada, too.
So what?
Go ahead, make our day AHs.
BTW, if they were intent and so sure of passage, they would not be having this charade in the first place.
GOP should include Sen Tom Coburn in the Thursday contingent. He’s terrific on TV, knows every issue inside-out as a practicing physician, and will NOT be intimidated by BO.
see post 45
the GOP is not going to give the RATS cover, especially in an election year.
That said, the GOP has to attend on Thursday... otherwise the GOP becomes the issue, not the legislative monstrosity that the RATS are proposing.
We are winning. We have nothing to fear.
Let the people vote on it then....vote for a constitutional amendment authorizing healthcare. Lets see if that flies.
THEY ARE BLUFFING! THEY DON’T HAVE THE VOTES!
Their stupid party would be set back generation and would lag behind the Libertarian Party in general elections.
Can they be this obtuse and downright stupid?
| > THEY ARE BLUFFING! THEY DON’T HAVE THE VOTES! Agreed. The Libs DO NOT WANT the Pelosi/Reid bill. It's not Obozo wants to offer his bill to make the Pelosi/Reid bill Fortunately, the Overton Window is not working for any of them! The Overton window is a concept in political theory, named after its originator, Joe Overton, former vice president of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. It describes a “window” in the range of public reactions to ideas in public discourse, in a spectrum of all possible options on an issue. Overton described a method for moving that window, thereby including previously excluded ideas, while excluding previously acceptable ideas. The technique relies on people promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous “outer fringe” ideas. That makes those old fringe ideas look less extreme, and thereby acceptable. The idea is that priming the public with fringe ideas intended to be and remain unacceptable, will make the real target ideas seem more acceptable by comparison. The degrees of acceptance of public ideas can be described roughly as: * Unthinkable The Overton Window is a means of visualizing which ideas define that range of acceptance by where they fall in it, and adding new ideas that can push the old ideas towards acceptance merely by making the limits more extreme. |
Ahh, great. A Rachel Maddow nip slip is the last thing I needed to see.
They’re very clever, I must admit.
So do it. Quit talking about it.
That’s true, but think of this. Most of them are rich and they didnt make all that money from salaries.They will miss all that juice and insider info from lobbyists.
“When is the last time an entitlement program, agency, or department was un-done, cut, or eliminated?”
Interstate Commerce Commission in 1995. A bunch of FDR garbage in the 1940s. The War Department in 1922.
What’s he babbling about? Healthcare passed both houses without any appreciable Republican help. All the House has to do is pass the Senate version and it’s good to go. No reconciliation required. If the House won’t pass the Senate version then it can go to conference as a bill should. Then they will need 60 votes which they will never have again.
Since the only provisions that start immediately are the taxes, I think you would be able to repeal it.
ESPECIALLY if they change their own rules to pass this garbage.
And I think most of them simply hold on for the perqs and prestige. Why else would Byrd or Spector stay on so long after his expiration date (metaphorically speaking only .... well, come to think of it, maybe Byrd has expired. Who could tell?)?
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