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Slaughter Preps Rule To Avoid Direct Vote On Senate Bill (House to pass ObamaCare without vote!)
National Journal via NRO's The Corner ^ | 10 March 2010 | Anna Edney, with Billy House and Dan Friedman contributing

Posted on 03/10/2010 1:08:06 PM PST by Pilsner

Democracy by Slaughter [Daniel Foster]

The sense around here for the last week or so has been that "only the House vote matters" in deciding the fate of Obamacare. But what if the Democrats can pass the bill with no House vote at all?

Astoundingly, House Democrats appear to be preparing to do just that:

House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday.

Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version. (emphasis added)

Slaughter has not taken the plan to Speaker Pelosi as Democrats await CBO scores on the corrections bill. "Once the CBO gives us the score we'll spring right on it," she said. . . .

House members are concerned the Senate could fail to approve the corrections bill, making them nervous about passing the Senate bill with its much-maligned sweetheart deals for certain states. "We're well beyond that," Pelosi said Tuesday, though she did not clarify.

That the Democrats could take this extraordinary step to avoid passing the Senate bill tells you that they have zero trust in the Senate to pass reconciliation "fixes," and zero trust in the president not to sign the Senate bill should it reach his desk and a reconciliation effort collapse. But most crucially, it gives the lie — in a big, big way — to the Democratic narrative that health-care reform should and will be finished via simple "majority rule," and not bound up in the arcane rules of the United States Senate.

The National Journal story is at http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/hca_20100310_2179.php?mrefid=site_search, but it is available only to subscribers.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010; congress; deadsistersteeth; democrats; healthcare; louiseslaughter; notbreakingnews; obama; obamacare; pelosi; reconciliation; slaughter; tyranny; ushouse
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To: OldDeckHand; CharlesWayneCT
Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.

Can they get away with this?

41 posted on 03/10/2010 2:48:48 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: Pilsner
The bill the House is talking about today is Obama’s bill NOT the Senate bill. So I have NO clue what the hell is going on or what they are trying to on.
42 posted on 03/10/2010 2:50:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Army Air Corps

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43 posted on 03/10/2010 2:51:58 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

>> Can they get away with this?

Only if she points using her elbow. If she uses her finger, she needs to chug a full bottle and wait for the next game.


44 posted on 03/10/2010 2:52:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Pilsner
Slaughter was always a committed lefty.

But I never realized she hated everything about America, including rule-of-law.

45 posted on 03/10/2010 2:53:55 PM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: Pilsner

By the way, if they are going to simply refuse to follow law and put this bill in front of Obama without voting on it, then I will hereby and willfully violate it, purposely, including dropping my insurance. And I will send letters to all sorts of authorities to come get me.


46 posted on 03/10/2010 2:55:54 PM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: vpintheak

If they get it passed this way and then years later the USSC strikes it down the hundreds of thousands of new nomenklatura will have been hired and The Republicans, no matter what their status, will not vote to fire all those new “employees”. We will be stuck with them. The level of government control is directly related to the number of bureaucrats. The legislated control creates the jobs but if the jobs are filled and the powers taken away, the jobs and new bureaucrats won’t go away. They will just be shifted in emphasis somewhat.


47 posted on 03/10/2010 3:19:43 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting aPerhaps after bortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Red Badger

The Social Democrats don’t seem to think so.


48 posted on 03/10/2010 3:20:41 PM PST by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting aPerhaps after bortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Lazamataz
By the way, if they are going to simply refuse to follow law and put this bill in front of Obama without voting on it, then I will hereby and willfully violate it,...

I think that passing this monstrosity through such unconstitutional means calls for some very strong civil disobedience at a minimum. I'm not ready to go rambo on them yet, nor am I thinking about overturning parked cars or burning dumpsters near the local university. But I am thinking that if this monstrosity passes regardless of the means, we should be taking very large, decisive steps to shut this economy down.

49 posted on 03/10/2010 3:50:07 PM PST by meyer ("It's not enough just to not suck as much as the other side" - G. Beck)
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To: DarthVader

it had better not happen during American idol or reruns of “the office.”


50 posted on 03/10/2010 4:02:33 PM PST by Karma Police (Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!!)
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To: Pilsner

We’re left wondering if this, coming from Congresswoman Slaughter, has any teeth in it.


51 posted on 03/10/2010 4:09:08 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: Pilsner
Article I, Section 7 - All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives

The bill currently before the House raises revenue and originated in the Senate.

52 posted on 03/10/2010 4:29:41 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: GoCards

Eric Cantor talked about this on Hannity today.


53 posted on 03/10/2010 4:49:02 PM PST by Atlantan
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To: victim soul
Why is there not a mandatory retirement age in the Government? If there is why is this person still there?
54 posted on 03/10/2010 5:27:20 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Pilsner; All
If this usurpation is enacted, I'm unilaterally passing an equally-valid law classifying all Democrat and RINO Congresspersons as fire wood.

Harvest, stack, and light accordingly.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

55 posted on 03/10/2010 5:42:54 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

How could they. THe media couldn’t possibly let them get away with something like that. The ridicule and scorn would leave the democratic party so damaged they couldn’t be elected dog catcher.

OK, so that’s how it SHOULD be. Who knows how the media would react given their love of all things Obama.

I have no idea how this helps them. Anybody who votes for a bill that passes the Senate bill will have voted to pass the Senate bill. And they still have the problem that the Senate can’t pass a reconciliation that changes a bill that hasn’t been signed.

Anyway, it is clear this is extraordinary, and absurd, because nobody spoke of this before they lost their supermajority.

My bigger question is how the CBO is currently scoring the reconciliation. CBO has already said that they must accept bills at face value, and based on current law. The changes they are scoring must be scored relative to the current law, not based on some other law that hasn’t been passed yet. It will be very interesting to see what sort of score comes back.


56 posted on 03/10/2010 5:47:54 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Pilsner

Agreed. Why does it seem like every day draws us closer to revolution?


57 posted on 03/10/2010 5:59:52 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: Pilsner

Louuuuise....she use her pure kentucky twang like a badge of honor...seriously I’ve talked to african americans in her district who thought she was black.

What a ridiculous hag...


58 posted on 03/10/2010 6:05:44 PM PST by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Pilsner

We ought to organize a national strike to get these F**kers attention. Somebody say when!


59 posted on 03/10/2010 6:09:49 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: who knows what evil?

whores!


60 posted on 03/10/2010 6:13:50 PM PST by Squat (Deport the illegals now! Turn Home Depot's into the prisons to hold the illegals!.)
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