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More Democrats come out against health care bill [Four from KY, IL, SD and NC]
CNN ^ | March 12, 2010 | Charles Riley and Jeff Simon

Posted on 03/12/2010 8:40:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As House Democratic leaders advised their members Friday to prepare for a legislative battle over health care that could stretch through next weekend, four additional rank-and-file Democrats have come out against the Obama administration's signature domestic priority.

Reps. Ben Chandler of Kentucky, Luiz Gutierrez of Illinois, Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin of South Dakota and Heath Shuler of North Carolina say they will vote against their party's health care plan, which may be headed to a final vote late next week.

"At this time, I am a 'no' vote on health care," said Gutierrez in a written statement. "It's no secret that I have been critical of proposals that would exclude our nation's hardworking immigrants from the health care exchange, and I would find it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to vote for any measure that denies undocumented workers health care purchased with their own dollars."

According to an ongoing CNN survey, 21 House Democrats have now indicated they will vote against the Senate bill when it comes to the floor, though six of those members say they would consider voting for it if it were significantly modified. Opponents of the bill need a total of 38 Democrats to vote against the measure to ensure its defeat, assuming that all Republican members remain unified in their opposition.

Some members made clear that their votes are not negotiable. Josh Taylor, a spokesman for Texas Rep. Chet Edwards, told CNN the congressman "voted 'no' on health care the first time around and will vote 'no' the second."

Proponents of the health care plan need 216 votes in order to pass the Senate plan. As of Friday, no Republicans said they would vote in favor of the bill, which would mean Democratic leaders must rely solely on votes from its own members.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Kentucky; US: North Carolina; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; congress; democrats; healthcare; illinois; kentucky; liberalfascism; northcarolina; obamacare; prolife; reconciliation; socialism; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; southdakota
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Will he just sign an executive order?
1 posted on 03/12/2010 8:40:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Bump


2 posted on 03/12/2010 8:41:23 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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Wow ... what the heck is going on?


3 posted on 03/12/2010 8:42:14 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sure that Bella Pelosi will be able to flip Gutierrez.She’ll just give him a wink,a smile and a promise that this is just step one and there’s plenty more leftist crap to come.


4 posted on 03/12/2010 8:43:11 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They don’t like the Bill because it isn’t Liberal enough for them, just like twinkle toes Massa.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 8:45:57 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party...)
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Will he just sign an executive order?

He can try. The Constitution has been used for toilet paper and flushed down the chute. They don't care about the Rule of Law -- there is no more law anymore, only tyranny. There will be consequences.

6 posted on 03/12/2010 8:46:12 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

RATs can be bought off. It will pass by the narrowest of margins, and then it will be declared a mandate. Sure hope that the stock markets lose 10% on the next business day after it passes (look for a late Friday vote).


7 posted on 03/12/2010 8:47:07 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know how right before an earthquake or tsunami all the animals bolt for the hills? It appears even demorat congresscritters still have some primal instincts left.


8 posted on 03/12/2010 8:47:55 PM PST by Pan_Yan (Is the sarcasm tag really necessary?)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Have you seen this?

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242


9 posted on 03/12/2010 8:48:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, the Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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Herseth-Sandlin of South Dakota was a no vote the first time around. Is this ‘new’ news about reps that have flipped? I’m not understanding, but absolutely NONE of this makes sense in the big picture.


10 posted on 03/12/2010 8:49:51 PM PST by mplsconservative (0bama = Epic Fail)
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I think the Dem Sen's are set on driving Ms.crazydaisy Pelosi more insane. Out of the House and into a hospital. She's beginning to look and talk like they have put her through the wringer.

They may have huddled: "OK, you say No today, I'll say No tomorrow".

One can wish.

11 posted on 03/12/2010 8:50:20 PM PST by annieokie
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Wow ... what the heck is going on?

They're holding out for more special deals, pork, bribes, etc.

12 posted on 03/12/2010 8:50:35 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Probably just a charade at this point... The Donks drew straws over who had to vote yes, and who gets to vote... and then it will just barely squeak by.


13 posted on 03/12/2010 8:50:54 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, I had not seen that. Tanks.
My powder’s dry.


14 posted on 03/12/2010 8:56:02 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: Chet 99

I half agree with you. They are deciding who gets the goodies for falling on the sword (voting for it) and who gets to fake it by voting no.

We will see.


15 posted on 03/12/2010 8:56:18 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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Wow ... what the heck is going on?

They're Dims. They're holding out for a better deal. Money, perks, whatever.......

16 posted on 03/12/2010 8:59:52 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

AP is reporting it is a done deal. The pot has been sweeten to bride enough to make it pass.


17 posted on 03/12/2010 9:00:39 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin got the message from her constituents that if she voted for it she was going to lose her job.

South Dakota is a small state that mostly keeps the attitude of ‘stay out of my life and my business’.


18 posted on 03/12/2010 9:02:00 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When some rat says “At this time, I am a ‘no’ vote”, it only means they are waiting for a bigger bribe.


19 posted on 03/12/2010 9:03:21 PM PST by kara37
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To: CatOwner

May they all rot in hell. I wish I was younger would like to march against these ass4oles!!


20 posted on 03/12/2010 9:03:23 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (Zero will never be my President, never!!!!!)
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