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1 posted on 03/13/2010 3:15:14 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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The garbage currently being peddled in Congress has NOTHING to do with reform.


2 posted on 03/13/2010 3:17:02 PM PST by airborne ("Peace, Love, Dope" has now become "Hope, Change, Obama" !!!)
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Republicans do support health care reform, but only in ways that will improve choices and lower costs. Unfortunately, the Dem bills will do the opposite - reduce choice and raise costs.


3 posted on 03/13/2010 3:18:45 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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OK, where the Hell was LaHood at when Republican proposals were getting ignored and they were shut out of debate up until the phony summit?

Typical, just typical - it's always the Republicans who have to reach across the aisle and bend over

4 posted on 03/13/2010 3:18:57 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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Lahood is a worthless fool. If he had a slight amount of intelligence, he would have bolted from this administration like Judd Gregg did. It didn’t take long to realize that this admin is up to.


6 posted on 03/13/2010 3:20:02 PM PST by ilgipper
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Well, he may have been a Republican, but he works for 0bama now, so I’d say he already ‘sold his soul to devil.’


7 posted on 03/13/2010 3:26:03 PM PST by paudio (Are you better off today than in 2006, when the Democrats took over the Congress?)
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Do we now understand why Ray was the choice of Obama for his sec. of commerce....Republican.....baaaaaahhhhhh Humbuggggg!!!!!


8 posted on 03/13/2010 3:35:32 PM PST by Oldsailor
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I've been a Republican all my life...but....

...Now I work for the commies.

9 posted on 03/13/2010 3:36:11 PM PST by onedoug
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I've been a Republican all my life

Possibly true, but irrelevant. Secretary LaHood has clearly demonstrated that he is completely willing to do the Marxist-in-Chief's bidding to include breaking the law to help Obama's UAW buddies and GM (Government Motors) to destroy an automobile company that makes automobiles in American factories.

He was a Republican because it was a convenient cover that allowed him to pursue a left wing agenda in a Conservative district.

11 posted on 03/13/2010 3:38:08 PM PST by centurion316
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If an Obamacare medical procedure -or death panel denial of treatment - causes part of me me to accelerate uncontrollably, will Ray LaHood recommend that my family either leave me where I am or drop me off at the dealership White House?

Mr. niteowl77

12 posted on 03/13/2010 3:40:00 PM PST by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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Ray LaHood from the infested swamps of Chicago machine politics?
Never heard of him.
13 posted on 03/13/2010 3:41:59 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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from Chicago, hmmm?

WAs he paid off - or got stuff he needs kept quiet...


14 posted on 03/13/2010 3:43:25 PM PST by maine-iac7
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Apart from giving government control of one sixth of the economy this so-called reform will redefine the meaning of rights. That will affect every aspect of law over the course of time.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)

You will be a slave of the state if this passes.

15 posted on 03/13/2010 3:43:29 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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More anti-GOP propaganda from FR’s leading RonPaul et al lie-bertarian.


16 posted on 03/13/2010 3:43:44 PM PST by La Enchiladita (wise gringa)
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An article or statement that begins “I’m a lifelong Republican” is straight out of Organizing for America. Total BS


17 posted on 03/13/2010 3:45:10 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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The nerve of this dope: working for Obama as his spigot of funds for asphalt and concrete, buses and trains, and then trying to claim authority on the health care issue as a Republican and a conservative. LaHood’s contribution to this bit of hackery was to sign it when the White House communications office shoved it under his nose. The man has no principles left except to hold onto his office as long as he is useful to Obama.


18 posted on 03/13/2010 3:45:24 PM PST by Rockingham
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I’ve been a Republican all my life, when I served in the Illinois legislature

That’s the problem with the Republican Party right there. Why has such an left wing idiot even been a Republican Party congressman at all?

19 posted on 03/13/2010 3:50:09 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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Who cares what this idiot did before. He is a fool beyond words.


21 posted on 03/13/2010 3:55:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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He may be registered republican but inside he is about as much republican as Helen Thomas is jewish.


22 posted on 03/13/2010 4:17:20 PM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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BARF

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. IF you have a name to add let me know and I will add it.

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044


24 posted on 03/13/2010 4:29:05 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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All you need to read is the first part of his BS: am a fiscal conservative, advocate of a smart, but restrained government. And then says, pass the health bill. What an idiot. Or better yet a fool. Do not argue with a fool, he wins because of experience.


25 posted on 03/13/2010 4:30:56 PM PST by mulligan
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