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To: Jim Scott
The usual Libertarian rant against those who realize that the advance of Islamic terrorism requires security measures that make libertarians nervous and motivate some of them to conjure up all kinds of Orwellian scenarios. Conservatives oppose the steady advance of a hedonist culture and most chose Christianity (or other religion) over secular humanism. Libertarians and conservatives may share some political DNA but we go our distinctly separate ways most of the time, and we should. This article demonstrates why.

This is about where I like to remind all the libertarian lurkers who are about to get pinged into ths theard that President Reagan strongly opposed libertarianism.

I was glad to see the libertarian author recognize the fact that libertarian does not correctly belong on the political "right."

20 posted on 03/19/2010 12:51:02 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9; Jim Scott
This is about where I like to remind all the libertarian lurkers who are about to get pinged into ths theard that President Reagan strongly opposed libertarianism.

Which is an outright lie. Reagan understood the value of the libertarian movement as a compliment to the conservative movement.

"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."

"Now, I can’t say that I will agree with all the things that the present group who call themselves Libertarians in the sense of a party say, because I think that like in any political movement there are shades, and there are libertarians who are almost over at the point of wanting no government at all or anarchy. I believe there are legitimate government functions. There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to insure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves. But again, I stand on my statement that I think that libertarianism and conservatism are travelling the same path."


-Ronald Wilson Reagan, Reason Magazine, July 1975.

So, do you enjoy lying on FR to misrepresent everything you're incapable of grasping? Or is it just this particular subject?
30 posted on 03/19/2010 1:00:38 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: presidio9
This is about where I like to remind all the libertarian lurkers who are about to get pinged into ths theard that President Reagan strongly opposed libertarianism.

You are sadly, selectively, willingly misinformed.

128 posted on 03/19/2010 9:08:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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