[Lets Be Frank]

But the order doesn’t have the earn their income..they just go out a fundraise? Maybe some orders make a product and sell it, but people buy it to support the order. Not neccessarily because they actually want the product.

[ArrogantBustard]

But the order doesn’t have the earn their income..they just go out a fundraise?

Have you ever tried to raise funds for a nonprofit?

I spent several years on the BOD of a small pregnancy center ... part of my (completely uncompensated) work was "fundraising".

IT.

AIN'T.

EASY.

Try it some time.

And yes, the bills have to be paid ... water, sewer, power, phone, lease, business association, a few paid staff, materials must be purchased ...

Heck ... it might have been easier if we had a product to sell.