Posted on 03/19/2010 4:56:11 PM PDT by chessplayer
I never went past the first one. It was pointless. Again, I didn't ask you how many, but why.
Why do you have such an issue with the Bible?
I don't have issues with the Bible. The Bible is the Bible. As far as I am concerned, it's another book some people consider holy. It's how it is used, presnted, claimed to be, etc. that is an issue.
Truth is not fact, so I wish you would quit twisting my words.
And I have not resorted to derision and ridicule with you, so either prove it or drop that accusation.
And finally, You want to believe you are naught more than an advanced ape, well there you go. Chart your own destiny, as we all must.
I’m done here. You can have the last words.
Dictionary definition of fact: something that actually exists; reality; truth.
How am I twisting your words? Geez!
You tell us. You get all bent out of shape about a priori beliefs when we tell you the truth.
FWIW, scientists do exactly what you condemn us for. Treat as fact things that aren't and presume as true things that can't be verified.
Science is full of unprovable a priori beliefs upon which scientists use science.
Naturalistic materialism being the main one.
Treating evolution as a fact is another.
Just out of curiosity, do you think that you're telling us the truth or have told us the truth? What truth is that, because I didn't see you post anything that would qualify.
Why is that truth?
[scientists] Treat as fact things that aren't and presume as true things that can't be verified.
Like what? Last time I checked, scientists propose theories, which are then subjected to rigorous tests Until proven they remain theories.
No one calls them facts. You are dreaming. Evolution is based on veidence. Drug reistence and new strains of flue are good exmaples of adaptive survival through mutation.
Religion is like a theory but a priori accepted as "truth." I relies on magical tales which have no counterpart in the real world. I know that it gives comfort to many, which is good, but it is not a source of verifiable or dependanble knowledge.
Science is full of unprovable a priori beliefs upon which scientists use science. Naturalistic materialism...
As opposed to what? "Unnaturalistic" materialism? Or 'naturalistic immaterialism?" LOL! What is "naturalistic materialism?" Which sicentist uses this term?
Treating evolution as a fact is another.
Evolution is not an a priori belief. That is obvious to anyone even remotely familiar with the work that went into it.
Inasmuch as the truth is factual reality, yes.
What truth is that, because I didn't see you post anything that would qualify
The world around around you.
Dont waste your time replying to the guy MM. Its now obvious by his squirmy mocking evasive non-answers that he is a troll.
Methodological naturalism (or scientific naturalism) requires that hypotheses be explained and tested only by reference to natural causes and events.
Naturalistic materialism is one of the core components of Marxist Atheism.
Take a look. There is not to much difference in the materialist philosophy from the Marxist philosophy.
Materialism is the view that “nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.” In practice it is “devotion to material needs or desires to the neglect of spiritual matters; a way of life, opinion or tendency based entirely upon material interests” (Oxford Engligh Dictionary). There is a vast range of philosophies based on materialism, often embracing the philosophy of Western science, including determinism, or predetermination, the view that events occur by natural law and the results can be the only one’s possible.
MATERIALIST BELIEFS
1. believes that all religious endeavor is a waste of time and energy, that there is no God, and all so-called paranormal or psychic phenomena are quackery and superstition.
2. believes that there is no such thing as the soul; death of the body is death of the mind, and there is no reincarnation or afterlife.
3. believes that the material universe, governed by natural laws and chance, is the ultimate and only reality and that all apparently nonmaterial substances, such as mind, are explicable as modifications of matter.
4. believes that science is the means of understanding all the secrets of the universe, for all phenomena are the result of material processes which are governed by predictable, natural laws.
5. believes that free will is an illusion; that each event, being a fortuitous combination of particles and forces, can only happen in one way and is thus predetermined (deterministic materialism).
6. believes that there is no objective “higher purpose” in life, no absolute basis for ethics or morality and no retribution for sin or reward for virtue. Seeking pleasure and avoiding pain are the only two goals rational men will pursue — what pleases me is good, what pains me is bad (hedonistic materialism).
7. believes that all novel qualities of existence can be derived from changing material conditions — that men’s mental and spiritual life, their ideas and aims, reflect their material conditions of existence (dialectical materialism).
8. believes that though not all things consist of matter or its modifications, whatever exists can be satisfactorily explained in natural terms (modified or naturalistic materialism).
9. believes that man, the highest and most complex of the evolutionary process prevailing throughout the universe, may continue to evolve into an even more perfect being or higher species (utopian materialism).
COMMUNIST BELIEFS
1. believes there is no God and no knowable providential order, that this physical world is the only reality, physical beings are the only real beings, and reason is man’s highest faculty.
2. believes religion is “the opiate of the people,” an exploiters’ tool of oppression that should be eliminated and its resources redirected to improving world conditions to lift mankind from misery.
3. believes mysticism and religion are primitive and fraught with error, prejudice and superstition, and that modern science, based on materialism and empirical evidence, is the only respectable avenue to useful knowledge.
4. believes that each person has but a single life and that death is final. Therefore, in this life we are to attain all that is deemed worthwhile and express our finer qualities in service to the greater social good.
5. believes that as in the case of nature, history evolves in a continuous line from lower to higher forms, from tribalism, feudalism and capitalism to its final maturity in socialism, and that the collapse of capitalism and the establishment of socialism will usher in an age of peace and plenty, when state control will no longer be needed.
6. believes that all men are created equal and are inherently good, and that distinctive attitudes, personalities and experiences are determined solely by one’s environment; therefore, to uplift mankind, improve the environment.
7. believes that the views expressed by our great Marxist revolutionaries represent the one and only correct world outlook, and that it is imperative to overthrow the capitalist regimes, through violent revolution if necessary, to usher in a new order.
8. believes that the world’s wealth should be shared equally, and that unequal distribution caused by class distinctions, is the root of all social evils, driving men to greed, selfishness and exploitation. Economic necessity is the basic moving force in society.
9. believes there is no knowable providential order, that death is permanent, that God does not exist and that the highest life is one of intense consciousness.
Placemark to read tomorrow.
Of course they’re going to look similar. They are both founded on the atheistic philosophical system.
Since there’s no inherent value or purpose to life, anything goes and can be justified.
Existentialism can only lead to despair.
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