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To: mdmathis6
And yes many of them “aren’t of Israel”, in the spiritual Christian sense.

No. Paul does not say that they "aren't of israel, in the spiritual Christian sense"; rather, Paul says that they are not Israel according to God:

Let me repeat what Paul says: Christ-denying Jews are not Israel in God's eyes, and therefore are not Israel in the Biblical-Prophetic meaning of the term (since GOD defines the term "Israel" -- not me, not you, and certainly not any of those silly Hal Lindsey-style prophecy hacks). Rather, Paul says that Christ-believing Jews, and gentiles ingrafted into this Belief Community, are those who make up Biblical-Prophetic Israel, according to God:

Yes, King Jesus will rule in New Jerusalem over His People, Israel:
Israel being defined by the Apostle Paul as Christ-believing Jews and also gentiles ingrafted into this Belief Community.

99 posted on 03/21/2010 2:03:45 PM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

Hey, Step back a little bit and take a deep breath, I was being a little colloquial when I said “Christian sense”, of course “God said it!”.

And I don’t think anyone disagrees with you about Jews who are and will be Christ deniers and how God sees them. Paul said did he not that the Jews were “given over to blindness” so that they would not come to the truth and that the truth was sent to the gentiles so that the Jews would be “in envy” of them? Paul also said that veil would be lifted en mass someday so that great many remaining Jews would come to know Christ. The OT says that as well,Ezekiel 39:25....!


100 posted on 03/21/2010 2:21:44 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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