Posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:47 AM PDT by indianyogi
Someone asked a question: if government can set the mandated minimum wage, why can't they require us to buy health insurance?
Freepers thoughts!
Why should they do either?
I think the stronger argument is that they demand we buy into social security and medicare, why not healthcare.
Does the federal government require you to work? And if you don’t work do you have to pay a fine/tax or go to jail?
Neither are mentioned in the Constitution, so, they should BOTH be STATE Issues, having NOTHING to do with the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Easy come, easy go...
If you CHOOSE to employ others, the government has certain requirements.
You have no CHOICE when it comes to national healthcare. If you exist, you must subscribe to the service.
Same comparison can be made with paying FICA, or property taxes. These are conditions imposed on you because you CHOOSE to work or own property. This socialist bill is imposed on you without your choice.
the mandate should have been challenged but i am guessing that it may be that the fed government cant force you to purchase or fine you for not purchasing an item.
my questions is “isnt liability insurance on your car a mandated insurance”....I also think that since insurance is regulated state by state...that it is a states rights issue so fed healthcare is not constitutional. of course most of what gov does is not
One is a purely economic matter, a wage, imposed upon employers. The other is not a purely economic matter, and involves the requirement to purchase a product, imposed upon individuals. The courts may treat thses differently.
However, if we must accept the minimum wage, we still must see the difference between that and what we face now.
The minimum wage does not require any contract with anyone, for labor.
Health Care “reform” does require a contract, which is not Constitutional.
Employers aren’t required to hire (yet) employees at minimum or any other wage. People will be required to buy Obamacare health insurance.
I am not forced to hire someone to then pay them what ever the minimum wage is. But as an “individual” I am being forced to purchase a product.
I think a strong ruling on the 10th Amendment could have wide reaching implications. Also, minimum wage is state legislation not Federal legislation
You make a good point
Require us to work? Well, yeah, after they set up the Gulags for the people who don’t pay fines, we will all be provided with work.
When it started, it cost $3 for Part B....equal to about one hour pay.
Now Part B costs $96 a month. Know anyone who makes $96 an hour??
Very true, but even if it were struck down I think they could get around it quite easily: impose a tax on everyone and then give an equal tax credit only to those who buy the approved insurance.
The feds give out tax credits on specific purchases all the time.
Beat me to it.
Didn’t Michelle say something to the effect of Barack will require everyone to work? Not an exact quote, but something similar.
Anyways, I was just trying to point out that the question in the OP is a strawman argument.
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