The document in Hawaii cannot vouch for a Hawaii birth. And in fact, I believe that the amendment Obama made would prove he was NOT born in Hawaii.
But Hawaii law says that if a person ENDORSES a document they know is not genuine it counts as forgery. And if a person invites the public to rely on a document they know is fraudulent it counts as perjury.
I think Obama qualifies as having committed both those crimes by claiming that what he has on Fight the Smears and Factcheck are genuine. And having his lawyers make note to a judge regarding those online forgeries probably qualifies as some kind of crime as well - maybe obstruction of justice?
You know... all this stuff may be true and then again it may not be. What I do know, though, is that if it is true, it’s going to take some proof that courts will accept and it’s going to take a case.
Now, I’ve said all along that I don’t think this stuff is going anywhere, but that we needed a state law to require candidates to show a birth certificate. That’s my solution and has been for a long time.
And so far, it’s just as I said, that the legal cases are going nowhere and nothing is being accomplished by that route.
I just think that we would never be in the mess in the first place, you see, if we conservatives had more political pull and power. I mean, Obama should have never been elected, “politically” (and having nothing to do with legal issues).
That’s what will succeed in the long run, is if conservatives start getting power politically, and can win elections consistently, and over the long term, by having more conservatives than we see today.
I know there are a number of posters here who wouldn’t think of this stuff (that we’re discussing) as “nit-picky” — but I sorta do, because if we can’t win elections politically, none of this legal stuff really means anything in the long run. We’ll just keep getting outvoted consistently until we even get outvoted in changing the Constitution, itself by amending certain parts out of existence.
Political power at the voting booth is where it’s at... long term.