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Marine's Iraq killings trial to go forward
AP ^ | March 26, 2010 | Elliot Spagat

Posted on 03/26/2010 1:47:30 PM PDT by jazusamo

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. — A military judge in California has denied a motion to dismiss charges against a Marine sergeant whose squad killed 24 Iraqi men, women and children after a bomb killed a Marine.

Lt. Col. David Jones ruled Friday at Camp Pendleton on a defense motion claiming there was unlawful command influence while a general considered a court-martial for Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich.

The judge ruled there was no record of any "meaningful comment" between the general and an aide who had investigated the case as a military lawyer.

Wuterich is facing trial on reduced charges of voluntary manslaughter and other crimes in the November 2005 attack in the town of Haditha.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: haditha; iraq; marine; pendleton; wuterich
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This is a very sad decision because there was an appearence of Unlawful Command Influence in my and others opinion.

I'll be updating this thread as more information becomes available.

For previous articles on this hearing go to Defend Our Marines

1 posted on 03/26/2010 1:47:31 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: RedRover; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...
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HADITHA MARINE PING!

2 posted on 03/26/2010 1:49:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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LET ALL THE OFFICERS OFF AND SCREW THE ENLISTED


3 posted on 03/26/2010 2:02:07 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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THere is no end to this unjust idiocy!


4 posted on 03/26/2010 2:02:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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What if he claims to be homosexual?

There has got to be something helpful in that.


5 posted on 03/26/2010 2:08:02 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Build Bibi Build!)
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LET ALL THE OFFICERS OFF AND SCREW THE ENLISTED

LET ALL THE POS OFFICERS OFF AND SCREW THE ENLISTED

Had to add that Race. Hope you don't mind

6 posted on 03/26/2010 2:08:11 PM PDT by bigheadfred (BE WHO YOU ARE. SAY WHAT YOU FEEL. Those who matter don't mind.Those who mind don't matter)
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This is inexcusable and could haunt military justice for years to come.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 2:10:21 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: bigheadfred

no argument here....


8 posted on 03/26/2010 2:14:18 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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claims to be homosexual

He's already taking it in the A**. No use letting them think he should be enjoying it.

9 posted on 03/26/2010 2:14:33 PM PDT by bigheadfred (BE WHO YOU ARE. SAY WHAT YOU FEEL. Those who matter don't mind.Those who mind don't matter)
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To: smoothsailing; All

Note: I won’t be updating this AP writers stories but if any other reporters write on it I’ll update with theirs, he reminds me a little of McGirk.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 2:16:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Appeal this one.

It is not possible that the same incident is UCI in one case and not UCI in exactly the same case.


11 posted on 03/26/2010 2:17:22 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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Appeal this one.

Agreed...Anxious to see what his attorney Neal Puckett has to say about this, if it can be appealed I'd bet he'll do it.

12 posted on 03/26/2010 2:21:53 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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Field Officers

a Maj. Gen & 2 Cols. rec’d letters of censure.


13 posted on 03/26/2010 2:28:06 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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Note: I won’t be updating this AP writers stories but if any other reporters write on it I’ll update with theirs, he reminds me a little of McGirk.

I agree, the writer is probably McGirk's "roommate".

a Marine sergeant whose squad killed 24 Iraqi men, women and children

This is the same bogus garbage the leftist nosepickers always run in the first paragraph of Haditha stories.


14 posted on 03/26/2010 2:33:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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ending their further promotions while Enlisted go to Leavenworth!


15 posted on 03/26/2010 2:37:59 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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letters of censure.

Woohoo. A big woohoo.

How about standing up for the troops under your command? How about "taking one for the team", and stepping in and putting their butts in line for a LONG prison term? Not gonna happen in their little PC world.

I guess in their defense they are old enough to have learned "duck and cover" in grade school. Too bad, especially in their line of work, that they so take it to heart.

16 posted on 03/26/2010 2:40:07 PM PDT by bigheadfred (BE WHO YOU ARE. SAY WHAT YOU FEEL. Those who matter don't mind.Those who mind don't matter)
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Tony Perry's story in the LA Times.

Excerpt:

A military judge at Camp Pendleton on Friday rejected a defense request to throw out charges against the last Marine charged in the death of 24 Iraqi civilians in Haditha in 2005.

Lt. Col. David Jones, the judge, had ruled Tuesday that there was a possibility that what the military calls undue command influence was present when two generals decided to bring charges against Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich.

But Friday, Jones ruled that he saw no indication of actual influence on Gen. James Mattis or retired Lt. Gen. Samuel Helland. Both, he said, conducted an "unbiased assessment" of the case before sending charges. Mattis sent charges to a preliminary hearing, and Helland sent charges to a court martial after that hearing.

In making his Tuesday ruling, Jones said the prosecution had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that no undue influence existed. In his Friday ruling turning down the defense request, the judge ruled that prosecutors had "overwhelmingly" met that burden.

Wuterich's court martial is set for September on a variety of charges, including manslaughter, aggravated assault, dereliction of duty, reckless endangerment and obstruction of justice. He remains on active duty.

Military judge in Iraq killings trial refuses to throw out charges against Camp Pendleton Marine

17 posted on 03/26/2010 2:54:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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This is taking forever.Prayers for the Families.


18 posted on 03/26/2010 3:00:22 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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SOB.


19 posted on 03/26/2010 3:47:55 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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Politically Correct brass buddyfu*king their own. Whatever happened to Semper Fi? Now it seems to be “Semper fu*k you”.


20 posted on 03/26/2010 3:58:24 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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