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...To those calling for a civil war, this Marine wants you to stop, and think...
newsvine.com ^ | Mar 26 2010 | Sgt C USMC

Posted on 03/27/2010 12:59:55 PM PDT by worst-case scenario

It's been said that the military is always preparing for war. That is true. We prepare for combat every day. We ran 5 miles today to the rifle range and shot nearly 200 rounds a piece at targets and then ran back. However, we also pray for peace. I would love one day to be completely unnecessary. But alas, I am a realist, and I know that day will never come.

The headlines of the last week have reminded me more of glimpsing at the S2 Daily Briefing Sheets while in theater or the Al-Jazeera than the NY Times or the Washington Post. Think about that for a moment, let it sink in.

Before I get into the main premise of this article - I need to make two statements here.

First and foremost , when it comes to the back and forth of who did what to whom and why - I don't give a @!$%#. It doesn't change the action. In life we're judged by our actions, nothing more, nothing less. One of the greatest things of the military is when it comes to an enemy, the politics behind the situation - don't matter in accomplishing that mission. For the military , life is simple in that regard.

Secondly, Regardless of your political ideology, you've earned the right as US Citizens to say your piece - no matter how wrong it may be. That is your right, and I will give my life to protect it.

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To: worst-case scenario

Food for thought. Civil wars are particularly nasty wars, and, with the exception of the American Revolution, and the War between the States, they have all ended in dictatorship, and reign of terror.

The reason ours did not end that way is because one was led by George Washington, who, twice was handed power, and twice handed it back, and the other had two sides fighting for the preservation of what they saw as the Constitutional Republic founded in the Revolutionary war. But both were close run affairs in that respect. What if Gates had succeeded in getting command? What if the defeated Confederates had taken to the hills in a guerilla war?

What this marine describes is one of the dangers of having a professional military, but the alternative is a conscripted army. Mercenaries or slaves - take your pick.

My opinion from my observation is that a civil war is coming, and I hate the thought if it. I think the Obamanites and their ACORN allies are trying to provoke a civil war by destroying our faith in the electoral process.

It won’t be a two sided affair. There are too many fault lines, and everyone with an organized band of gunmen will take part, and with the Federal government verging on bankruptcy, it will not be able to field enough troops to restore order, and some, if not most, of their weaponry will fall into the hands of the contending armies.

And G-d help us.


41 posted on 03/27/2010 1:19:27 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: worst-case scenario

>>I hope some of you heed my words and cool the rhetoric and focus on achieving your goals diplomatically instead of physically. It would never want to receive a frag order to Maryland, or North Dakota, or Texas, but it is an order I will follow no matter how much it pains me to do so.

“I was just following orders” has not been a very successful defense for the past 60 years or so. As he states in the article, he and his fellow Marines can easily mow us down like grass as they subjugate us in the name of Obama and the “newly reinterpreted” Constitution. But will he get the orders to indiscrimately shoot civilians, or will get the same kind of RoE’s that Marines have in Iraq where you can’t shoot an armed civilian unless he shoots at you? If he gets the Iraq-type RoE, his dreams of racking up a huge body count in Anytown, USA may be a little hard to achieve.

Even if he is able to win the war for Obama, it is likely that the Progressives in power in Soviet America after the war is won will turn against him and put him up against the same wall he put us against just short time before.

I pray that this guy does not represent the views of most Marines. I know that his views are not common among former Marines (or soldiers, or sailors, or airmen).


42 posted on 03/27/2010 1:19:49 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Think globally, act locally--beat up your neighborhood hippie communist.)
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To: worst-case scenario

I don’t believe this was written by an active duty Marine, PERIOD.


43 posted on 03/27/2010 1:20:05 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: fuzzybutt
The US military may not be used against American citizens, EVER.

You may want to google "Bonus Army", an unfortunate event in 1932 where the Army fired on unarmed civilians. If I recall correctly, Ike, Patton and MacArthur were there.

44 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:10 PM PDT by Publius (The prudent man sees the evil and hides himself; the simple pass on and are punished.)
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To: ScreamingFist

I think this is a DUmmy posting lies about being a fake Marine to earn undeserved cred.

This post is toro mierda, start to finish.


45 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: worst-case scenario
"The moment you attack the constitution, you're now enemies of that constitution. And I swore to defend and support and if necessary give my life for that Constitution and utilize every tool, technique, and weapon at my disposal to do so. And trust me, I'm not alone. "

Fine, Sarge.

I see no troops at the New York Times, or the Senate, or the White house.

What went wrong?

I do not think there is such a person. I suspect it was written by pale, overweight "Journalist".

46 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:51 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (GET him AWAY from the CAMERA!! They are all figuring it out!!!)
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To: worst-case scenario
Now I 'd like to disperse a myth here - many of you think that US military would not fight civilians. I can't speak for all, but in my case - the moment you declare civil war, you're no longer civilians. The moment you attack the constitution, you're now enemies of that constitution. And I swore to defend and support and if necessary give my life for that Constitution and utilize every tool, technique, and weapon at my disposal to do so. And trust me, I'm not alone.

"The moment you attack the constitution, you're now enemies of that constitution." Yep! and it has already been done, he took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not a dictator. And I know many military officers, some for over 30 years, and some would refuse to fire on US citizens (unless first fired on). The article is pure BS. PURE WISHFULL THINKING ON THE LEFT.

And I am not advocating a military conflict. But if it comes to the point where the government is overthrown and the Constitution is ignored (it is now happening) then it is a case of "Whatever It Takes" to save the nation.

47 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:52 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Travis McGee
"My BS flag is WAY up."

It should be. If this turd took an oath to uphold The Constitution he would not utter these threats. I think he is a lying POS.

48 posted on 03/27/2010 1:21:59 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: cripplecreek

We just vote them out...Instead of manning guns we man a conservative get out the vote..


49 posted on 03/27/2010 1:22:21 PM PDT by hstacey
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To: worst-case scenario
"Now ask yourselves and be honest - when is the last time you've run anything other than late to work, climbed anything other than a flight of stairs, grappelled with anything other than a paper jam, and shot off anything other than your mouth? When's the last time you were in any situation more stressful than a traffic jam?

Doesn't seem to have much respect for us does he?

Doesn't realize that we are not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic.

Sounds like he is willing to obey an order to turn on his own countrymen if ordered even if the order is illegal, immoral or unConstitutional.

Would he be willing to disarm us at his CINC orders?

I think he should read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution again.

50 posted on 03/27/2010 1:22:42 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You took the words right out of my mouth.

I will add that the author of this piece seems to misguided in our true form of government. We are a Constitutional Republic not a Democracy.

I would also anticipate problems within the military itself. Those that acknowledge the Constitution and those that believe we are a Democracy.


51 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:13 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: worst-case scenario

The Sergeant says he is sworn to uphold the Constitution. But at what point will he no longer support elected Representatives and Senators who are actively subverting and thwarting the Constitution with all their might? At what point would our military overthrow a political coup by marxists and throw its support behind the strict Constitutionalists? He leaves these critical questions unanswered. By doing so, and by posting on Newsvine, I think it is easy to figure out where he stands on this critical question.


52 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: worst-case scenario

Who is calling for a Civil War?

This is just another attempt by the left to smear the Tea party / Conservative movement by making up a phony story.


53 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:24 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: lowbridge
I think my fictional accounts about defending the Constitution are a lot more realistic than this fictional blog post by this ersatz jarhead.


54 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:25 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ScreamingFist
This Marine believes the US Military would essentially be canceled out by violent division and mass defection within their own ranks.

That would leave the 10% of the nation who would be combatant Patriots to go up against the 26,000 members of the FBI, the 120,000 IRS and ATF agents and any remaining stray armed feds...total around 150,000.

In other words we outnumber them in the vicinity of 200:1.

Know this about yourselves, American Patriots !

200:1

"If you know your enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the outcome of 1000 battles." -Sun Tzu

55 posted on 03/27/2010 1:23:33 PM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC COMBAT VET)
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To: GeronL

I thought we were a republic?


56 posted on 03/27/2010 1:24:02 PM PDT by MotherRedDog
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To: Daveinyork
"What this marine describes..."

If he's a real Marine, then I am Chesty Pullar.

This is disinformatzia by a DUmmy.

57 posted on 03/27/2010 1:24:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ScreamingFist
It's bullshit.

The Sergeant has a number of errors in his article and in his thinking.

We are not a “democracy”. We are a representative republic (and that's what's gone wrong, we are no longer being represented).

Every Marine I associate with is just as riled up about our Constitution being pissed on as I am.

58 posted on 03/27/2010 1:24:59 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: lowbridge
"...When the White House violates the constitution, then what is he going to do...?

Now that When the White House violates the constitution, now then what is he going to do?

Fixed.

59 posted on 03/27/2010 1:25:06 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Jeff Chandler

I wonder how the MSM would react if there ever was a “Death of the President Part 2” movie released these days, as opposed to the Bush years?


60 posted on 03/27/2010 1:25:13 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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