HI State Senator responds to Hawaii Petition Campaign (Certifigate)

The Post and Email ^ | March 30, 2010 | Sharon Rondeau

[Smokeyblue]

HOWEVER, ANSWER DISREGARDS CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESIDENTIAL ELIGIBILITY

Many of our readers are reporting that they have received a letter from Hawaii State Senator Fred Hemmings in response to The Post & Email’s Hawaii Petition and letters mailed on March 1, 2010. The text of Hemmings’s response is as follows:

March 23, 2010

To whom it may concern:

Dwelling on the non issue of President Obama’s place of birth is harmful. His birth was reported in Honolulu papers and has been validated by Hawaii state officials. You are hurting those of us with legitimate concerns with President Obama’s ultra left agenda by the dogged pursuit of this nonissue. Please stop and concentrate your efforts on the huge and vexing problems that Obama is creating by his disastrous policies.

Aloha,

Senator Fred Hemmings State of Hawai’i

Senator Hemmings is one of only four Republicans in the Hawaii legislature and to date, the only legislator who has responded to the thousands of letters which The Post & Email sent to Hawaii officials regarding the question of Obama’s constitutional eligibility to serve as president.

However, his response appears to be an attempt to marginalize the eligibility issue by falsely stating that Obama’s “birth was reported in Honolulu papers and has been validated by Hawaii state officials.” As The Post & Email recently reported, the only Hawaii official to have made any type of statement about Obama’s origins is Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Health Department. No other official from Hawaii will back up Fukino’s claim nor provide any supporting documentation as is required by Hawaii’s UIPA law.

[Smokeyblue]

Read the follow up letters.

[mlocher]

Dwelling on the non issue of President Obama’s place of birth is harmful

Isn't this e-mail a form of "dwelling" on a "non-issue"?

[Ablesinner]

If all of the states with the proposed citizenship requirements for anyone running for President Pass, Obama will actually not be able to run in 20 or more states come November 2012. We need to support the legislators in all states to pass a Citizenship law that makes a candidate prove they are Natural Born Citizens.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

[Obama's] birth was reported in Honolulu papers and has been validated by Hawaii state officials.

To quote an American vice president, "Big f'ing deal."

My birth was announced in the local paper, my birth is validated by the state that has my birth certificate. Yes I was born therefore I am.

But my long form b.c. is stamped 'DELAY" meaning that I was not born in a hospital and my parents registered my birth, a couple of months later in fact.

All that was needed which they themselves could not provide was a signature of a doctor, a midwife, or other.

I have to release my long form b.c. why cannot Obama?

All we are saying♩♪♫
is give release a chance♩♪♫

THAT is why I "dwell" on the b.c. issue.

[Diogenesis]

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.”
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.”
The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

[Oldexpat]

At least one state needs to pass the law requiring proof. That one state would be the fuse.

[bgill]

We need to support the legislators in all states to pass a Citizenship law that makes a candidate prove they are Natural Born Citizens.

Who says we aren't? I think we all can multi-task. However, I've asked you before how that is going to stop him between now and then. With all the he's pushing down our throats, who's to say there will even be free elections next time around.

[Uncle Chip]

Read the follow up letters.

The follow-up letters are definitely a MUST READ.

[Helotes]

Great surfer so I will do as I am told, not.

[Uncle Chip]

Like this excerpt from one:

“With a foreign-born father, Obama never qualified to be president, and the disgrace is that not one Secretary of State or Governor objected to his name being placed on the ballot. Our entire system of government has failed, and the sooner that is acknowledged, the sooner this horrendous situation can be corrected....

“Obama’s usurpation of the office of the presidency has allowed our entire government to be subverted by foreign influences, and our national security is now greatly imperiled. While this was brought up extensively during the campaign, not one judge or legislator had the courage and conviction to tackle it in the name of upholding our Constitution.”

[kjo]

You know...you’d think it would be an easy thing to just release the long form certificate...if it exists.

Why wouldn’t he do that?

If it exists...what could be on it that he’d have to hide?

[edge919]

“Dwelling on the non issue of President Obama’s place of birth is harmful.”

The good senator could explain why this is harmful. Plus, it’s not the whole story. Place of birth is just one piece of the Obama puzzle. Let’s deal with who he is and then we can know better how to stop him.

[bgill]

Frozen and rebooted. Should have known Eligibility Ed was lurking.

[NCC-1701]

I have a question. If Ø’s authentic long form BC EVER comes to light and it comes during the next president’s term, (hopefully a Pub), and it shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was ineligible to hold the office of POTUS, can everything he did between January 20, 2009 and January 20, 2013 be recinded? Would everything he did be rendered null and void? If so, imagine the storm that would create. There would be no historical precedent. The next prez would have the biggest mess to clean up ever.

[freebird5850]

Hell yeah! Great follow ups to read! LETS ROLL!

[tutstar]

ping

[tutstar]

bump

[keikialii]

If O is indeed inelligible to hold the office of President, the longer it takes to prove it, the worst will the resulting chaos be.

[Menehune56]

If O is indeed inelligible to hold the office of President, the longer it takes to prove it, the worst will the resulting chaos be.

Which is exactly what O is counting on - mutually assured destruction. This likely explains a lot of Republican collaboration in the stonewalling.