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To: Forty-Niner
You are responding with logic, but we are talking LAW. Specifically the Constitution of the United States. You are arguing citizen vs “natural born citizen”.

Check out http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm

It explains NBC very well.

The US had no jurisdiction in Colon Panama By TREATY. Treaties have the force of the constitution.

While a child's upbringing may have been a consideration in writing article II, section 1, clause 5, they had to put it into LAW. The concept of jus soli and jus sanguinis was well known to the founders and they thought that covered it. You have to draw the line somewhere.

142 posted on 04/12/2010 6:58:40 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

You’ll have to see my posts on other threads...... Yes, I do understand the Constitttion’s NBC requirement, it’s underpinnings in the pollitical writtings of the 1700”s, and USSC cases, which while they did not specifically address the instance of NBC/Presidency, did in fact reafirm the NBC definition of US born to 2 citizen parents......

The term NBC was not coined by the Founders and has a long usage, with varying definitions, throughout history. The definition used by the Founders is the one contemporanious with their era......ie Law of Nations

My post was narrowly focused to contrast McCain to Obama.... McCain a son of a long line of Naval officers born to US Citizens while they were assigned to a US administered Panama Canal Zone v Obama born in an unknown place to a US citizen mother and a alien father.....

Of the two, I believe that Obama is the one that the founders sought to exclude from holding the office of the President......and that they would be unfased by an McCain Presidency, even with the minor flaw in the strict application of the definition of NBC.


146 posted on 04/12/2010 7:48:18 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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