[calex59]

Getting down to the last two questions here…. Most people consider Abe Lincoln to be one of our greatest presidents, if not the greatest president we’ve ever had. Would you agree with that sentiment and why or why not?

While I don't agree with Ron Paul on most things, he is right about Lincoln. Abe started the war against people who seceded peacefully and did not take arms up against the North until the precipitated the fight at fort Sumpter. Lincoln did not want secession so he pressured the south until they fought back. Hence a war. Lincoln was a blood thirsty tyrant, regardless of how history paints him.

[hobbes1]

Living Proof that Lincoln should have sent Sherman to California after he subjugated the south.

[KevinDavis]

I hate to break it to you.. The South fired the first shot..

[Non-Sequitur]

...the North until the precipitated the fight at fort Sumpter

The ever popular "We wuz soooo stoopid we done fell into Lincoln's trap" excuse.

[Cold Heat]

Lincoln was a blood thirsty tyrant, regardless of how history paints him.

I don't see the blood thirsty part, or the tyranny.

What I see when I study the history, is essentially a pissing contest between the central government and a president with a legacy to protect, and a bunch of states who wanted out of the family tree at any cost.

Someone had to win and someone had to lose. The fight was going to happen in any scenario.