Posted on 04/01/2010 12:21:21 PM PDT by penelopesire
Also, by the time the 2012 elections come around he would have served 14 years in the house. Ozero served what, 18 months in the Senate before he started running full time?
I agree with all the comments on a Paul Ryan - BH0 debate. Ryan would do what the lamestream media is unwilling to ever do: expose Barry for the complete fraud he is. The other thing is that BH0 is already flummoxed whenever confronted by Ryan. We saw it at the "health care summit" as well as zero's trip to Baltimore. Debating Ryan would be Barry's worst nightmare.
He even has the Reagan hairdo.
Mark.
Has Ryan spoken favorably of a VAT tax? He did a great job fighting for us on the Obamacare thing but how much do we really know of his broader positions on issues?
I seriously doubt it. Here is his ‘Roadmap’ here if you want to read more about it.
Ryan’s great, but he might want to take some time to develop before leaping in for a presidential run. Moving up to the Senate from the House might be a good start.
Amen. We need someone who understands supply-side economics to clean up the mess. I look forward to seeing much more of this fine, young man.
oops..sorry forgot the link(I don’t do multitasking very well..lol) :
Paul Ryan’s Roadmap
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
I dunno..after the Obama disaster, it will be a very long time before Americans elect a democrat or a senator. I hear what you are saying however, he has plenty of time. I’d rather see him become a governor though if he wants to make a move to position himself for a run.
oops..sorry forgot the link(I don’t do multitasking very well..lol) :
Paul Ryan’s Roadmap
http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/
“... Today was not a good day for Rep. Paul Ryan. The conservative wonk’s fiscal roadmap would dramatically change US tax policy and revamp our entitlement system in the name of deficit reduction. But as two tax policy centers announced today, Ryan’s deficit reduction plan doesn’t actually reduce the deficit. Whoops.
What does it do exactly? Well, a lot of things. On the tax side, it turns the income tax into a two-rate system, eliminates most deductions and the Alternative Minimum Tax, exempts all interest, dividends, and capital gains, and institutes a broad based consumption tax, or value-added tax. On the spending side, it slashes federal outlays and turns Medicare into a tightly budgeted voucher program. I think Ryan’s plan comprises mostly useful contributions (I like VAT, and raising the standard deduction would create political space to tax mortgage interest and kill other distorting tax expenditures) or distant cousins of interesting ideas (I don’t want to voucherize Medicare, but I think means-testing and cost-controlling entitlements should be on the table).....”
I wouldn’t trust Atlantic Monthly to disseminate what is in Ryan’s plan for one minute....lol. That being said, a VAT is ok if you are going to largely eliminate income taxes right off the bat and totally eliminate them as part of a phased in plan. It would be a great way to get the looters in society paying their fair share and giving them a sense of having a stake in our economy. Eliminating capital gains taxes would be a major kick start to our economy as well.
Well, the guy told Reuters in an interview that he favors a VAT tied to other changes including cuts. He said:
“The VAT is coming. They just know they can’t do it before the election. My fear is that the credit markets blow up on us again, we’ll get some shot across the bow by the bond market one of these days. And if the Democrats are still in power, that will bring us the VAT. They will say they have no choice but to do it to save the creditworthiness of the government. It will kind of be like another TARP weekend where the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman come to Capitol Hill hyperventilating and out of that comes a VAT. Our government is premeditating a moment like that. But there is another way with real entitlement reform, real tax reform, fulfilling health and retirement security but also paying off our debts and making our economy really competitive.”
I’ve seen this kind of thing before at state level and on the Hill too. A tax hike tied to so-called “cuts” gets passed and the “cuts” magically disappear. In fact, that’s what Obamacare is ginned up to be—a big savings, ha ha, because of the Medicare cut.
I like Ryan but Republicans need to advocate spending cuts and tax cuts. There are plenty of Democrats in Washington to write tax hike bills.
Ryan is not saying in that ‘word clip’ that he ‘favors’ a VAT! He is warning folks that that is what is coming down the pike from the dems!
*sigh*
The guy is on the record favoring a VAT. Even Townhall has reported it.
“He also wants to eliminate the taxes on dividends and the alternative minimum tax.
In their place, Ryan proposes a value added tax – something common in Europe, and something he says would allow fewer tax loopholes to be created. But the end result is that the rich are taxed at much lower rates.”
If you Google “Paul Ryan VAT” you’ll find thousands of references to it. Sigh.
The reporter that wrote the piece on Townhall leaves out an important distinction when she says the VAT is ‘just something common in Europe’. What she leaves out is that in Europe, they have done the ‘stack the VAT’ approach..ie.. stacking the VAT on top of other business crushing taxes(which is what Ryan is warning that the dems want to do too). Ryan is not proposing a VAT on top of our current tax structure. He is putting an idea forward of a more equitable replacement. What do you find wrong with his approach?
I’ve said my piece about this. A VAT is a non-starter for a would-be conservative candidate for president. Do you remember, “Read my lips....?” Republicans proposing taxes is redundancy at its most absurd. There are plenty of Demoviks in DC to do that. At the very least, A VAT prposal marks Ryan for extinction in primaries in red states.
I like Ryan but he’s already played the “it’s gonna happen so why not propose it ourselves” inside-the-Beltway game. BTW, this is how people get “across the aisle.” They don’t do it all at once, it happens in increments and can take decades. Prescription drug benefits for seniors as proposed and passed by Bush—?? Originally a Dem idea co-opted by “it’s-gonna-happen-anyway” Repubs.
If you wanna stop politics as usual you have to stop politics as usual.
Didn’t Paul Ryan vote for the bailouts (bank & auto)??? I haven’t fact checked that yet, but seems like he did....
He probably did, but then again, most of them did. I'm not going to sweat that because "It was the End Of The World As We Know It" (singalong) I blame Obama and Bush for all that.
Ryan / Bachmann ...Bachmann/Ryan ....
Just really discovered Ryan through the whole back and forth with Beck and I agree he looks like he has what it takes. Moreso than Palin. Much moreso.
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