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To: SeekAndFind
I'm a non-believer who has read both testaments, several works of Christian apologetics, and has a great deal of respect for Christianity.

May I ask the believers on this thread....

Wasn't Christ's message more along the lines of "come to Me and you will find that your "need" for a new car or a big screen will pass from you??"

16 posted on 04/02/2010 8:05:28 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi Tio es infermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: Notary Sojac; SeekAndFind
You were saying ...

Wasn't Christ's message more along the lines of "come to Me and you will find that your "need" for a new car or a big screen will pass from you??"

No, it's more like "You are dead in your sins..." (i.e., you are already judged and you will die, period). "Come to me and have eternal life and forgiveness of sins, because I am the Messiah of Israel, and I come from God the Father in Heaven and have always been with Him."

So, no..., the message is that people are already judged and they are dead in their sins, and will be eternally separated from God and all that is good.

Come to the Messiah of Israel and accept His sacrifice for you personally, on your behalf, and you will have eternal life and not eternal separation from God in the lake of fire.

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.


65 posted on 04/02/2010 8:38:27 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Notary Sojac

You are absolutely correct. And I hope you will ask Christ into your life.

You will find complete forgiveness, eternal salvation, and the closest, truest, most loving friend you can imagine. :-)

I know I did.


71 posted on 04/02/2010 8:42:25 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Pray for our leaders: Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.)
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To: Notary Sojac

“I’m a non-believer who has read both testaments, several works of Christian apologetics, and has a great deal of respect for Christianity.

May I ask the believers on this thread....

Wasn’t Christ’s message more along the lines of “come to Me and you will find that your “need” for a new car or a big screen will pass from you??””

It was even more extreme than that: “Matthew 16:24-26 (King James Version)

24Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

26For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?”

Essentially, as Christians, we are to give up everything to Christ: money, family, possessions, career, life, in exchange for an eternal life of meaning.

That said, this promotion, as crass and materialistic as it is, may be the best way to reach our crass and materialistic society. The money came from Christians who gave it in hope of saving some. May God call people to Him through this effort.


100 posted on 04/02/2010 11:32:16 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (If you meet people with no brain, no heart and no courage, you are not in KS-You are in the Congress)
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