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Yup, from 1917 to 1989, the USSR had bad weather

Well, I grew up in Maine, which is said to have a climate much like Russia. I could buy the "70 years of bad weather" story. It sure seemed like it to me, some winters. :-)

But you're right. I think that the question that needs to be asked here is, "When do people (not FReepers, the American public) stop believing what they're told and start believing what they see?"

That's the point that it gets ugly, IMHO.

Obama is doing damage in an endless number of ways. But some of the most insidious damage he is doing is that he is causing a lot of people to distrust the government, and to feel that the Constitution is now a pointless document, and that the legislative process is whatever the elite want it to be, and that the media tells lies for a living.

This is all creating a climate of fundamental distrust. I don't think a society can function like that. Again, the USSR is a classic example.

Going even further, for those of us who see civil unrest coming to this country, there is the classic question: Will the US military fire on US citizens? Again, we have the issue of mistrust -- will soldiers follow orders? Will politicians trust soldiers will follow orders? And does the president need a private army to ensure that his orders are carried out?

These are deep and disturbing questions to even ask. We are a broken country.