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To: dangus; Mase

Arrogant dismissal of another’s reasoning process is hardly expressive of higher reasoning. It is more along the lines of a fourth grade “did too/did not” argument.

Whether you accept my statements or not is irrelevant to the fact that HFCS has been being put into more and more products over the years, increasing the calories in these food items. The only food-related item in your litany of changes since 1980 is the microwave oven. Nice try, but that strawman isn’t even remotely relative to the food ingredient-related discussion.

We have unwittingly been eating more and more of this product since the 1980’s. To ignore the coincidence of its increase in our diet and the rise in our size is at the least delusional.

Yes, we have also become more sedentary, but putting a manmade sweetener into everything under the sun simply to get rid of it (flouridation, anyone?) is madness at the least.

That said, have you tried any soda sweetened with cane sugar vs HFCS? Try it, and you will be surprised at how much better the cane sweetened drink tastes, even though the HFCS is considered “the same”.

While I know I will not convince either of you of the high potential that we are poisoning ourselves, nor will your arguments sway me into thinking that HFCS is perfectly safe.

Let’s just agree to accept each other’s respective opinions, which is all we have, and leave it be.

It’s been interesting, and I thank you both.


129 posted on 04/22/2010 10:54:40 PM PDT by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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To: Don W
My dismissal isn't arrogant; it's based on established science. Your beliefs are based on feelings and unsubstantiated correlations. If that's what you consider to be a “reasoning process” then who am I to argue with you? You continue to believe what you want to believe.
130 posted on 04/23/2010 4:18:39 AM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Don W

No, I’m sorry but you can’t argue purely rationally with someone whose sheer absurdity beggars the imagination; It requires reason to respond to reason; when dealing with absurdity, one must also make plain that the other is being absurd. To do so, you first must point out why it’s absurd, but then treat it as if it is absurd.

>> The only food-related item in your litany of changes since 1980 is the microwave oven. Nice try, but that strawman isn’t even remotely relative to the food ingredient-related discussion. <<

Ah, but first off, I only need one to make a counter-example. Well, sushi consumption is up since 1980. Sushi must cause our obesity epidemic. Porn is up since 1980. Porn must cause obesity. How is that food related? Maybe porn addicts are trying to fill the emptiness in their soul with food. There, I’ve used presumption to tie something that’s not food related to make it food related. Ronald Reagan provided a bad example to our youths by publicly expressing his appreciation for jelly beans in 1981. It’s his fault. (This theory would probably be very widely accepted at Democratic Underground.)

>> That said, have you tried any soda sweetened with cane sugar vs HFCS? Try it, and you will be surprised at how much better the cane sweetened drink tastes, even though the HFCS is considered “the same”. <<

Actually, I already noted how I greatly prefer the taste of sugar. But again, that’s only slightly more relevant than the fact that Tron came out in 1980.


131 posted on 04/23/2010 4:20:36 AM PDT by dangus
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