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All New Yorkers Become Organ Donors
via drudge ^ | 4/28/10 | Kirstin Cole

Posted on 04/28/2010 4:41:03 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey

If Passed In Albany, Law Would Be First Of Its Kind In The United States

Organ donation has become a vital way to save lives around the world, but a vast shortage of donors continues to mean people are losing their lives while on waiting lists.

But there is a unique proposal that could change all that.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcbstv.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare
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To: Typical_Whitey

The bidness of organlegging:

“Organlegging is the name of a fictional crime in the Known Space universe created by Larry Niven. It is the illicit trade of black market human organs for transplant. The term organlegging is a portmanteau combining the words “organ” and “bootlegging”, literally the piracy and smuggling of organs.[1]

The crime developed as a response to the Organ Bank Problem, a concept featured prominently in the early Known Space stories, particularly those set in the twenty first and twenty second century. The Organ Bank Problem is a central theme in the novel A Gift from Earth, as well as the Gil Hamilton detective stories. As speculative fiction, the concept is a prime example of a gedanken experiment. It is an examination of the consequences to society of a new technology (in this case, the perfection of organ transplants) and an existing problem (organ shortage), carried to a logical conclusion.

The effect of technology on society is a recurring theme in Niven’s stories.”

from wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organlegging


21 posted on 04/28/2010 4:54:06 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: GeronL

Just wait till the Muslims hear about this...


22 posted on 04/28/2010 4:54:26 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

“I’m not dead yet!”

“Don’t be silly. You’ll be stone cold in a minute!”

“I’m getting better. I feel happy.”

THWACK!


23 posted on 04/28/2010 4:59:27 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Typical_Whitey
not very far-fetched to imagine a future that when one of our elite masters needs an organ transplant a quick database search for DNA and blood type match will result in an untimely accident (wink) for an Obamacare patient?

That's exactly the system China has right now, they just use prisoners condemned for serial jaywalking.

Oh, and if your just filthy rich but not connected to the government, well, your money's good too!

24 posted on 04/28/2010 5:00:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Typical_Whitey; driftdiver

Wait when the folks figure out they want to transplant their sex organs too! lol


25 posted on 04/28/2010 5:00:45 PM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Typical_Whitey
Members of the Religion of Pieces are exempt,no doubt.As are “wiccans”.
26 posted on 04/28/2010 5:01:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Typical_Whitey

I could just see the Death Panel now: “Psst, Joe, y’know, if he dies, we could really use that liver...”


27 posted on 04/28/2010 5:01:35 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

This is not organ donation, it’s organ confiscation.

My plan is to make my organs useless to the confiscators due to high fat content: bratwursts and beer. If they come for my organs before that’s successful, then it’s Winchesters and Colts.


28 posted on 04/28/2010 5:02:29 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in democrat stands for patriotism)
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To: pnh102
"Will the citizens of New York State be justly compensated for the state seizing their organs?"

You're not allowed to claim yourself as a personal deduction on your NY State tax form, yet the State wants the right to claim your organs after you die. Typical NY State bulls*it.

29 posted on 04/28/2010 5:06:20 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Typical_Whitey
Has Obama's Healthcare Law spelled out just who will be running the Transplant Panels?
Don't expect the insurance companies to pick up more than a fraction of the total cost--not while Obamacare has a big fat IV tube inserted into the taxpayer's wallet.

Organ transplant surgery is very expensive

The initial testing that's required in order for a patient to be placed on the waiting list for a transplant can cost tens of thousands of dollars, even if the patient is not hospitalized.

It is not uncommon for the cost of the transplant surgery and following hospitalization to result in a bill that exceeds $500,000. Unfortunately, the expenses do not end with surgery; the cost of medications in the year after surgery typically exceeds $30,000 a year.

Ideally, a patient will have primary insurance to pay the majority of the transplant expenses and a secondary form of insurance to pay the remaining expenses. Even with excellent insurance coverage that pays 80% of the total bill, the remaining 20% can exceed $100,000 from the surgery alone. With secondary or supplemental insurance coverage, the remaining 20% may be paid by the insurance company rather than the patient.

How to Pay For an Organ Transplant

30 posted on 04/28/2010 5:18:53 PM PDT by henbane
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To: Typical_Whitey
oh great. Now the phrase "over my dead body" is useless. They want my dead body.

Time to enjoy each day to its fullest. Time to party like there's no tomorrow... or move to another State. NYS is a hazard to ones health.

31 posted on 04/28/2010 5:21:20 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Typical_Whitey
Assemblyman Brodsky Introduces Bill That Would Give State The Right To Decide If You Are To Give The Gift Of Life

All your bodies are belong to us!

32 posted on 04/28/2010 5:22:11 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Pining_4_TX
I feel happeeeee!


33 posted on 04/28/2010 5:40:37 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: tutstar

GniP


34 posted on 04/28/2010 5:43:13 PM PDT by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Monty Python Meaning of Life script

MAN: Hello. Uhh, can we have your liver?

MR. BROWN: My what?

MAN: Your liver. It's a large, ehh, glandular organ in your abdomen.

ERIC: [sniff]

MAN: You know, it's, uh,-- it's reddish-brown. It's sort of, uhh,--

MR. BROWN: Yeah,-- y-- y-- yeah, I know what it is, but... I'm using it, eh.

35 posted on 04/28/2010 5:46:41 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: tet68; writer33; PJ-Comix; JohnHuang2

How long before the Muslims and Amish and Christian Scientists and Jehovah’s Witnesses are exempt?


36 posted on 04/28/2010 6:01:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Typical_Whitey

It’s funny how many of those things I used to argue younger days were all dismissed as informal logical fallacies of slippery slope... yet they have come to pass.


37 posted on 04/28/2010 6:03:28 PM PDT by upstanding
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To: longtermmemmory
If the government knows your medical life, they can ORDER you to donate “non vital” parts.

We wind up with much fewer New Yawkers this way. Given that this is a crowd that votes for Hillary!, this might be a good thing.

Gotta prohibit brain transplants. (Though in a populace that votes Hillary! there is probably little brain to transplant.)

38 posted on 04/28/2010 6:55:40 PM PDT by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. R.I.P. America 3/21/2010.)
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To: LibertyRocks

ping

This one. (:-)


39 posted on 04/28/2010 9:27:43 PM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: Dem Guard; Typical_Whitey; wagglebee

Thanks for the ping, Dem Guard! (Ping to you Wagglebee - don’t know if you want to pass this on or not...) This is a truly scary proposal!

I fully support VOLUNTARY organ donation. My mother received a Kidney Transplant in 1987, and I will be eternally grateful to the family who lost their loved one, but in the process saved the lives of a total of EIGHT people... As a result my mother did not pass away when I was in my late teens, and was with us for 10 more years, until her death exactly 13 years ago today (well, I guess yesterday now... the 28th).

HOWEVER, a mandate for organ transplantation? Definitely NOT a good idea. Too much pressure on the doctors to harvest the organs and convince the families that there is “no hope” when indeed there may be. Just another “cost cutting” measure I suppose. Why should the state pay for continual medical care for those needing organs, and pay for the continual medical care of someone with brain damage, or who is in a coma?

Frankly, I’m surprised a measure like this ISN’T already contained within the Obamacare bill’s 2000 pages...

This is quite disturbing...

Thanks again for the ping to the post, Dem Guard. This is an important thing to watch — and to fight against!


40 posted on 04/28/2010 10:12:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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