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The crux of Islam's hatred against the Jews
american thinker ^ | 5/2/10 | Jerry Philipson

Posted on 05/02/2010 6:59:00 PM PDT by Nachum

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the United States and Egypt are discussing an agreement which would see the Middle East, including Israel and Iran, become a nuclear free zone. The Daily Telegraph newspaper in England reports that President Obama is threatening to turn the peace process over to the international community if it remains deadlocked until the fall. In the meantime there may or may not be a resumption of talks on Monday, depending on who you're listening to.

All of this ignores the most salient factor of all.

Peace between Israel and the Palestinians is not possible because Islam won't permit it and militates against it.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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KEYWORDS: crux; hatred; islams; jews
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1 posted on 05/02/2010 6:59:00 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Ayaan Hirsi Ali explains why Islam hates Israel very well here:
It starts with her correcting an republican idiot from the Peoples republic of California. At 5:40 (near the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYZulIxNCE

Warning Bill Maher is in this but his more intelligent then the Republican in this video.

2 posted on 05/02/2010 7:12:12 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Bill Maher smarter than the RINO... that is SCARY!!!!


3 posted on 05/02/2010 7:15:59 PM PDT by Nat Turner (Escaped from NY in 1983 and not ever going back....)
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To: Nachum

Hatred of the Jews & Israel is always irrational, because it is a spiritual battle.


4 posted on 05/02/2010 7:19:30 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Nat Turner

in this video yes absolutely.


5 posted on 05/02/2010 7:20:40 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: anniegetyourgun

>>>Hatred of the Jews & Israel is always irrational, because it is a spiritual battle.<<<<

True. The Jews are God’s chosen people. Islam is under the mistaken impression that they’ve been chosen, too, based on the crazed writings of a babbling pedophile. Or is that too harsh?


6 posted on 05/02/2010 7:21:58 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: anniegetyourgun
ALERT! ALERT! Uhbama wants to take Israel's nuclear arsenal out so that the Jewish can be run over and demolished! He knows he cannot FORCE IRAN to give them up....SEVENTEEN UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTIONS would not force Saddam to let inspectors TOTALLY search every nook and cranny. It is why we went to war...because a nuke in his hands was DEATH to Israel and probably not too good for us , either.

No one will be able to INSPECT and VERIFY that that nutcase in Iran will not hide nukes...he will. Ya know it in your soul.

Uhbama..........LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE!

7 posted on 05/02/2010 7:23:42 PM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals from spending ONE MORE DIME before they destroy our nation.)
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To: Nachum

Ezek 35:5-15
5 “Because you have had everlasting enmity and have delivered the sons of Israel to the power of the sword at the time of their calamity, at the time of the punishment of the end, 6 therefore, as I live, “declares the Lord GOD,” I will give you over to bloodshed, and bloodshed will pursue you; since you have not hated bloodshed, therefore bloodshed will pursue you. 7 “And I will make Mount Seir a waste and a desolation, and I will cut off from it the one who passes through and returns. 8 “And I will fill its mountains with its slain; on your hills and in your valleys and in all your ravines those slain by the sword will fall. 9 “I will make you an everlasting desolation, and your cities will not be inhabited. Then you will know that I am the LORD.

10 “Because you have said, ‘These two nations and these two lands will be mine, and we will possess them,’ although the LORD was there, 11 therefore, as I live, “declares the Lord GOD,” I will deal with you according to your anger and according to your envy which you showed because of your hatred against them; so I will make Myself known among them when I judge you. 12 “Then you will know that I, the LORD, have heard all your revilings which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel saying, ‘They are laid desolate; they are given to us for food.’ 13 “And you have spoken arrogantly against Me and have multiplied your words against Me; I have heard.” 14’Thus says the Lord GOD, “As all the earth rejoices, I will make you a desolation. 15 “As you rejoiced over the inheritance of the house of Israel because it was desolate, so I will do to you. You will be a desolation, O Mount Seir, and all Edom, all of it. Then they will know that I am the LORD.”’


8 posted on 05/02/2010 7:31:28 PM PDT by fahraint (git theah fuhstest with the mostest)
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To: Nachum

A “nuclear free zone” ME will be as effective at stopping wars — including possibly ones involving nukes — as a “gun free zone” school or church is at stopping mass shootings. IOW, it will make them MORE likely, not less...


9 posted on 05/02/2010 8:09:41 PM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: Nachum

I don’t want to be the naysayer hear, but Judaism has a long history of co-existence with Islam to the point where Jews kicked out of the Spanish Inquisition (Sephardi) went to Turkey and North Africa. The turning point was the establishment of the state of Israel. At that point, most Arab nations kicked out the Jews, who mostly went to Israel. Can’t let a good story fall in the way of inconvenient facts.


10 posted on 05/02/2010 8:28:28 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Nachum

Israel will not and cannot give up its nukes; the day they do is the day they are overrun.

Remember the Holocaust! Never Again!


11 posted on 05/02/2010 8:38:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("young people, African-Americans, Latinos and women" - 0. Ageist, Racist, Sexist.)
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To: Fractal Trader; Nachum
I don’t want to be the naysayer hear, but Judaism has a long history of co-existence with Islam ... Can’t let a good story fall in the way of inconvenient facts.

However, you "conveniently" leave out the "fact" that the "co-existence" you tout was purchased at the price of Jewish dhimmitude, i.e "submission". The establishment of a Jewish state of non-dhimmis is what Islam can't tolerate.

Your "facts" may be correct, but your argument is dishonest.

12 posted on 05/02/2010 8:54:45 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat; Fractal Trader
However, you "conveniently" leave out the "fact" that the "co-existence" you tout was purchased at the price of Jewish dhimmitude, i.e "submission". The establishment of a Jewish state of non-dhimmis is what Islam can't tolerate.

There were also a history of massacres of Jewish communities in the Islamic world, expulsions, and other persecutions. In 1948, the muslims expelled almost one million Jews from their countries and confiscated their property.

13 posted on 05/02/2010 9:04:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Many Jews argue that their status in Arab countries was better than their peers in Europe, at least for a long period of history.


14 posted on 05/02/2010 9:16:50 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: tarheelswamprat

One of the greatest Jewish theologians practiced in the Arab world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides) without suffering from a pogrom.


15 posted on 05/02/2010 9:22:25 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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16 posted on 05/03/2010 5:42:56 AM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: SJackson; All

With the Devil’s assistant in the WH, what are we to expect?

It’s obvious that we are in the Biblical Last days.

Prayers continue for Israel.


17 posted on 05/03/2010 7:06:17 AM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Fractal Trader
Many Jews argue that their status in Arab countries was better than their peers in Europe, at least for a long period of history.

One of the greatest Jewish theologians practiced in the Arab world (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maimonides) without suffering from a pogrom.

Persecution of Jews by corrupt and/or misguided Christians in Medieval Europe was no more justified than forced conversion, dhimmi submission or extermination under Muslim overlords. The difference, however, which you keep disingenuously ignoring, is that the Christians who were persecuting the Jews were doing so contrary to the teachings of Jesus, while the Muslims were following Mohammed's explicit instructions. Another difference is that Christianity evolved and eventually repudiated and ceased officially sanctioning Jewish persecution - Islam remains the same.

Moses Maimonides and his family, like the rest of the Jews in Cordoba, were forced to either convert to Islam or leave their home under threat of death by Muslim rulers. The fact that they found sanctuary in Egypt under different circumstances doesn't change the fact that it was Islam that did that to them.

Further, even in Egypt, although they were allowed to live, they were still dhimmis. They did not have the same rights as Muslims, they were still subject to the jizya tax, and in a myriad of other ways they were second-class citizens.

Your continuing attempts to foist a false cultural and moral equivalence is simply unsupportable either historically or morally/ethically. The brutal fact is that while Jews and Christians are "People of the Book", they will never be accorded the same equal rights and treatment under Islam that they freely extend to Muslims. They have always been and will always be considered by Muslims as second-class citizens and inferior to Muslims. And, as soon as Muslims gain control of a society, they will be treated as such.

18 posted on 05/03/2010 8:38:42 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat
Christians who were persecuting the Jews were doing so contrary to the teachings of Jesus

We could start with the Book of Acts, where there were constant conflicts, some violent, against Jews who did not accept Jesus. While there are many others I could mention, Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, was explicitly anti-semitic in many forms and fashions. During most of the Christian era, Jews were restricted to a limited list of professions, were constantly faced with accusations of blood libel, and were victims of many pogroms over the years.

Dhimmitude, while oppressive, left behind a history of Jewish theological writings and culture that are far more prolific than European ones. And, if you had a choice between 6 million Jews murdered and countless others dislocated, or 1 million kicked out of Arab lands in the era after the founding of the Israeli state, then I would choose the latter.

19 posted on 05/03/2010 9:54:23 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

That’s assinine. The Nazis were not Christian but a neo-pagan group. Compare that to Mohammed himself starting the conquest, rape and forced conversion of Arabian Jews.


20 posted on 05/03/2010 10:01:28 AM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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