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To: Erik Latranyi

How many murders have occurred by NON-permit holders since 2007?


2 posted on 05/18/2010 6:49:58 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

Actually there are a lot of good questions to ask.

How many of those shootings were justified?


4 posted on 05/18/2010 6:51:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Daisyjane69
according to the latest update of Concealed Carry Killers

Yeah, no bias there.

5 posted on 05/18/2010 6:51:37 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Daisyjane69
How many murders have occurred by NON-permit holders since 2007?

Better yet how many murders did NOT occur because of a CCW.

10 posted on 05/18/2010 6:52:37 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Daisyjane69
That's what I want to know.

And to make it REALLY fair, what % does that correspond to?

I betcha the following is true...

(Murders by Non-Permit-Holders / Total Number of Non-Permit Holders)

IS GREATER THAN

(Murders by Permit-Holders / Total Number of Permit Holders)

19 posted on 05/18/2010 6:55:28 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Daisyjane69
Criminals in NY have killed more people per year than were killed in Iran and not Aghanistan. Liberals are against war and aginst armed citizens but are pro criminal carry and illegals.
24 posted on 05/18/2010 6:57:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Daisyjane69
"How many murders have occurred by NON-permit holders since 2007?"

Far more. But of course, the VPC is, as usual (and like all leftists) lying by telling only part of the truth.

29 posted on 05/18/2010 6:59:30 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Daisyjane69

Between 16000 and 18000 are killed each year in the USA. Most gang and crime related.

Not known how many are illegal aliens who commit murder ...

I wonder why that stat isn’t as important if not more so. Since we can prevent illegal alien shootings, by closing the border, which will help reduce the number a lot, why not do that.


30 posted on 05/18/2010 7:00:16 AM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: Daisyjane69

What percentage of total CC licensees do these numbers constitute? A very small number, no doubt, just like the statistically insignificant percentage of non-felon (i.e. illegal) gun owners who use guns in the commission of crimes.

The converse statistics never brought forward by these anti-gun groups are the deterence statisics that show that regions with CC laws in effect have far less gun crime and violent crime.


31 posted on 05/18/2010 7:02:04 AM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: Daisyjane69

exactly


36 posted on 05/18/2010 7:13:48 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Daisyjane69; Erik Latranyi
How many crimes were averted because the potential perp was shown or saw the firearm?

I despise the left.

38 posted on 05/18/2010 7:14:17 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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