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Arizona Immigration Bill´s Author Now Wants to End Citizenship by Birthright
Short News ^ | 5/22/10 | staff

Posted on 05/22/2010 2:17:14 PM PDT by pissant

Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce, the author of the controversial state immigration bill, told his constituents that he wants to invalidate the U.S. citizenship of children who were born to illegal immigrants.

He also sent constituents an e-mail he later said he disagrees with. "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother," it said. Other political leaders have called for an end to birthright citizenship.

Rep. Duncan Hunter of California told a tea party rally he´d support deporting the children of illegal aliens despite their birthright citizenship.

(Excerpt) Read more at shortnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; arizona; az; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration
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To: pissant
Yes! No way the Founding Fathers meant for Mexicans to run for the border and fall across it just to have a citizen on whom to anchor the importation of the rest of the family, including siblings, in-laws, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

vaudine

61 posted on 05/22/2010 3:27:19 PM PDT by vaudine (,,)
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To: SatinDoll

Thanks for that... I was pointing to that other post, but your post is absolutely “solid” and indisputable ...


62 posted on 05/22/2010 3:27:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: vaudine; pissant
You were saying ...

Yes! No way the Founding Fathers meant for Mexicans to run for the border and fall across it just to have a citizen on whom to anchor the importation of the rest of the family, including siblings, in-laws, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc.

Well, then..., the founding fathers did provide a way for you and me to change that -- if we don't agree with what has happened, in the meantime, since they founded this country.

They provided, for you and me, the Constitutional Amendment process -- in order to have the "will of the people" prevail upon the courts, no matter what the courts think.

That's how it can be taken care of ...

63 posted on 05/22/2010 3:30:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jerry557
Not much we can do about this.

We shouldn't have to. The 14th Amendment does not authorize 'anchor babies'

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

Also see this thread for what 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof' really means.

64 posted on 05/22/2010 3:33:05 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: MamaTexan

Given that language, how has it come about that we let these babies be citizens?


65 posted on 05/22/2010 3:34:12 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: Star Traveler

So we should REWARD those who break into this country illegally and steal our resources by giving their children instant citizenship (virtually?) This is NOT constitutional, and the U.S.S.C. would have to stand reason on its head to argue this on the basis of constitutionality (not that they’ve needed this basis before.)


66 posted on 05/22/2010 3:37:09 PM PDT by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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To: pissant

Citizenship by birth location makes no sense now that the U.S is less than 1-day’s travel from almost everywhere.


67 posted on 05/22/2010 3:38:00 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks.

I do have to say I understand everyone’s frustration on this issue because I feel the same. Babies of illegal aliens should have their parents nationality(ies).

Something I want to add: when illegal alien parents are deported the family must be kept together. Children born here of alien parents can always, upon majority, apply to be recognized as U.S. native born citizens.

The U.S. government isn’t constitutionally required to provide child welfare for foreigners who are deported.


68 posted on 05/22/2010 3:38:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: pissant
I've been interested in jury nullification ever since I first heard about it maybe 7 or 8 years ago (Just shows to go you how effective the "keep America dumb" movement has been), and I wonder ...


Can a Constitutional matter be nullified by a jury?

Is jury nullification for that one time only or does it set a precident that can, over time, nullify completely a law or a Constitutional element?

69 posted on 05/22/2010 3:39:45 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SatinDoll

So, any anchor baby born here of illegal aliens is a native born citizen but will never be eligible to become President.”

Since that law has already been violated by the Kenyan in the Oval Office.....

I don’t think we should have any of these ‘anchor babies’ here at all.
It is a drain on our resources beyond anything the media has ever had the guts to tell citizens.


70 posted on 05/22/2010 3:40:26 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: pissant

And make it RETROACTIVE. Like they do with tax increases.


71 posted on 05/22/2010 3:40:33 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: whence911
Given that language, how has it come about that we let these babies be citizens?

Power grab by the general government. After grinding through the public education system, most people won't even entertain the thought that the federal government has any sort of restraints, much less look at the evidence that clearly shows the differentiation between a Citizen of a State and a citizen of the United States.

§ 1218. The inhabitants enjoy all their civil, religious, and political rights. They live substantially under the same laws, as at the time of the cession, such changes only having been made, as have been devised, and sought by themselves. They are not indeed citizens of any state, entitled to the privileges of such; but they are citizens of the United States. They have no immediate representatives in congress.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution

72 posted on 05/22/2010 3:42:46 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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To: Star Traveler

Flap your gums to someone else.


73 posted on 05/22/2010 3:43:07 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Works for me. Mexico, come pick up your los ninos at the border control point.


74 posted on 05/22/2010 3:43:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Tea Party. We are the party of NO! NO to more government! NO to more spending! NO to more taxation!)
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To: MamaTexan

I guess if we can’t get them to read a 10 page bill, they probably won’t read the constitution.


75 posted on 05/22/2010 3:44:45 PM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: jerry557

Arizona certainly has a case here. Their case is that within their borders, THEY WILL FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, not some liberal courts bastardization of it.


76 posted on 05/22/2010 3:45:02 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Hell of a GOOD idea!


77 posted on 05/22/2010 3:45:34 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: pissant
Arizona Immigration Bill´s Author Now Wants to End Citizenship by Birthright

Gets my vote...

End chain migration...Gets my vote...

This government would allow cannibals the African Congo to immigrate here, and tell us we must respect their culture...

Our government has become very troublesome.

78 posted on 05/22/2010 3:46:34 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: pissant

LOL ... you still haven’t gotten the clue yet, even though I tell you just about every time ... I don’t “continue” with conversations with people if they stop talking to me ... :-)

But, that’s too difficult for you to comprehend, obviously, so I’ll try it again and see if it sinks in this time ...


79 posted on 05/22/2010 3:49:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: whence911; MamaTexan
You were saying ...

Given that language, how has it come about that we let these babies be citizens?

Ummm..., the Supreme Court ... :-)

80 posted on 05/22/2010 3:50:56 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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