Posted on 06/03/2010 11:38:56 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
“I don’t believe that website is accurate regarding the year of issuance.
I put in the first five digits of my SSN, and it said it was issued four years later than it actually was.
Was it accurate for yours?”
It was accurate for mine.
Of course!
Of course!
Thomas WOOD
042-68-4424
born 15 Jul 1962
died Jul 1981
Residence Newington Hartford CT 06111
State Issued CT
As you can see, he was born in 1962. So at age 15 it would have been issued in 1977.
Yeah, but no one really knows what nationality he was living in Hawaii under. Supposedly he was living at his grandparents’ as an American, but that hasn’t been substantiated. He could have been boarding in dorms at Punahou as a foreign Indonesian student.
In that case, he would still have either applied at his local office or through the Baltimore office ,using his local address as the mailing address- resulting in it being issued from Hawaii. Neither would result in a number being issued from Conn.
Original 1890 born owner of SSN , is who??
3. 042-68-4425 was originally assigned to an individual born in 1890, which makes him 120 years old. It appears this individual applied for the benefits when he was older and retired, and needed some Medicaire or Medicaid benefits. Mr. Obama is not 120 years old.
So can this person's family be located in Conn.?
How do you know his “permanent address” wasn’t in Indonesia at the time? Isn’t that where he was most summers & winter breaks when he wasn’t a student at Punahou?
How do you know the only office for processing such applications was in Baltimore ? Do you have documents from the SSA dating to 1976-77 to back that up?
No, he came back to the US in 1971 and didn't return ( though he may have gone there on his college trip ). It is not the "permanent address" that determines from where the card is issued. It is the mailing address. Even if he had a permanent address in Indonesia, does it make any sense to have your card sent there instead of having it mailed to where you are living ?
How do you know the only office for processing such applications was in Baltimore ? Do you have documents from the SSA dating to 1976-77 to back that up?
From Social Security website:
Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card.
Well, I’ve also read that he visited his mother in Indonesia some summers growing up. And that would have been his permanent address, since that’s where his parents lived.
If there was actually an Indonesian refugee office in Connecticut processing apps for foreigners, as another poster asserted; that’s the address that would have been on the paperwork that was sent to Baltimore.
That’s an interesting site. It confirms that SSN 042-68-4425 was issued for CT during years 1976-1977.
However, the site points to another site, Structure of Social Security Numbers, which states the following:
“Area numbers assigned prior to 1972 are an indication of the location of the SSA office which originally issued the SSN. Since 1972 SSNs have been issued centrally and the area number in SSNs assigned since 1972 corresponds
to the residence location of the applicant as indicated on the application for the SSN.”
http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/ID_SSN_fingerprinting/ssn_structure.article
Thus, for a number issued in 1976-77, the area number (042) should have denoted the STATE OF RESIDENCE for the applicant.
“Area numbers assigned prior to 1972 are an indication of the location of the SSA office which originally issued the SSN. Since 1972 SSNs have been issued centrally and the area number in SSNs assigned since 1972 corresponds to the residence location of the applicant as indicated on the application for the SSN.” http://w2.eff.org/Privacy/ID_SSN_fingerprinting/ssn_structure.article
Thus, for a number issued in 1976-77, the area number (042) should have denoted the STATE OF RESIDENCE for the applicant.
I don't know if that site is intentionally misleading people, but they are WRONG. Here is what is on the SOCIAL SECURITY SITE :
Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant's mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since
Your statement:
"Thus, for a number issued in 1976-77, the area number (042) should have denoted the STATE OF RESIDENCE for the applicant."
is clearly wrong. The area number denotes the MAILING ADDRESS NOT the STATE OF RESIDENCE
Why would he do that? There would be nobody to visit. His parents didn't live there. His mother moved back to Hawaii in 1972
In 1971, Obama returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Armour Dunham, and attended Punahou School, a private college preparatory school, from the fifth grade until his graduation from high school in 1979.[19] Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972, remaining there until 1977 when she went back to Indonesia to work as an anthropological field worker. She finally returned to Hawaii in 1994 and lived there for one year, before dying of ovarian cancer.
Stanley Anne’s wiki (NYTimes) has her back in Indonesia full-time by 1975. The SSN was issued in 1976-77.
(Not to imply she ever changed her & her son’s permanent address from her husband’s in Indonesia when she started grad school in Hawaii before that.)
That’s a good argument that someone in Connecticut filed & mailed the application.
Under United States law a refugee is an individual who:
* Is located outside of the United States
* Is of special humanitarian concern to the United States
* Demonstrates that they were persecuted or fear persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group
Is not firmly resettled in another country
* Is admissible to the United States
Pretty hard for him to claim refugee status in 1976 when he had been living in the US for 5 years. So the "applying for refugee" status through a Conn based refugee office doesn't hold up. He didn't qualify under US law.
I think you are putting too much faith in decoding the SSN to identify the State. My SSN says it was issued in WA when I was in fact born in MD.
Or he is using a SS number issued to someone from Conn.
You’re assuming his mother was honest about any of that; or that “legally qualified” means anything to the Dunham clan when it comes to identification paperwork.
That assumption just doesn’t hold up.
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