Posted on 06/11/2010 6:01:40 PM PDT by Strategy
“t I can’t ever work with or serve with a muslim. I’ll quit before I do. “
There are some instances where I’d work with a muslim. If he was the cook and I was the waiter, or if he worked at Macys with me, or whatever.
But I would not want to serve in the military with him.
I see our current war as a war against Islam. I acknowledge that some Muslims probably do now want war. But their official book teaches it, their official leaders promote it, and the majority are participating in it. The exception does not make the rule.
Anyway, THEY see it as Islam vs. the Christian West. So I am just seeing it they way they do.
I am not advocating anything bad be done to US Muslim citizens, but I don’t want them in the military because I think it is just asinine to do so. Like putting Nazis in our military, particularly during WWII.
Please note neither “Muslim” nor “Nazi” is a race, and I am no supporter of race-based discrimination. Just terrorist-belief-based discrimination.
I won’t have a muslim as a doctor.
“I won’t have a muslim as a doctor.”
No, unless in an ER situation where I have no control. I would not hire a muslim doctor.
Well, that’s what I read in the book.
Very well put. I think that's something that needs to clarified when we talk about this war. We are not advocating a war against a particular race, but we are advocating a war against Islam, as you said, because of the exact reasons you mention.
Now in this case, it just so happens that those of middle eastern descent, for the most part, are those who are muslim and if it appears that we are racial profiling, well, we have good reason. They are the ones who want to kill us, and until decent muslims (if there is such a thing) reign in the radical elements of their faith I will continue to be wary of them. I, and every other true Americam, have to protect ourselves.
The prospest of Iran with nuclear weapons is a very unnerving one to the Saudis. The Shiite mullahs in Iran would dearly love to be able to control both the Saudi oilfields, and access to Mecca for Moslems on Hajj. A great deal of money to be made in *both* these areas, and in this world, at this time, money=power...
the infowarrior
While both nations *do* support brands of 'radical', for which read ultra-fundamental, Islam, bear in mind that those versions are both distinct from one another, and mutually incompatible with each other.
The Saudis could, and would, if necessary, look the other way in an Israeli strike against Iranian nuclear aspirations. It makes a whole lot of sense to those of us who have an understanding of the Middle East, its major players, and their motivations...
the infowarrior
I heard some Middle East expert say that the Arabs don’t trust the Persians (Iran) historically and might “look the other way” if Israel does decide to take care of their “problem”.
The Wahabbi fanatics you speak of, are Sunni. They currently are enjoying the profits generated by devout Muslims on the compulsory Hajj to Mecca. Should Iranian nuclear aspirations be fulfilled, their position to receive those profits would be jeopardized, with themselves being displaced by Shiite Iranian mullah-approved clerics in charge of Mecca.
The Wahabbi clerics may be fanatical, but I doubt they're stupid...
the infowarrior
Iran wants control of the Arabian Gulf and the oil supplies Saudi has.
While many people can see clearly what Iran's end game is vis-a-vis oilfields there is another prize at stake here, and that's control of Mecca. The income from this nearly rivals the profits from oil. Iran wants to effectively control both, not only making Iran the Middle East hegemon politically, but Shia Islam the domionant religion. This is a very high-stakes game...
the infowarrior
This particular expert is indeed speaking forthrightly, but evidently didn't go into the details of "why". The "why" would be critical for the average person to understand, and thus make sense of the geopolitical situation as regards the Middle East. So, many folks view such a scenario as complete horse manure, when in actuality, it makes perfect, logical sense...
the infowarrior
I thought the Saudis said a couple days ago they weren't going to do this.
I was not speaking of "street-level" (man in the street). Both the Shiite mullahs of Iran, and their Sunni Wahabbi counterparts in Saudi Arabia are a bit more sophisticated than that...
the infowarrior
King Abdullah *is* the conservative wing of the Saudi royal family, and has been since long before he became king. Those who oppose modernization in the Kingdom are the Wahabbi clerics, who are the second, but largely unknown, and misunderstood by the West, power center within the kindgom. They rarely act, but when they feel compelled to do so, they act decisively.
Who do you think was actually behind the 'takeover' of the Qaaba, about 20 years ago? They were, and did it because the King at the time, Fahd, was attempting a modernization program, which was stopped dead in its tracks.
These clerics wield a lot of influence both within the Kingdom, and without (they are the ones building madrassa worldwide, with a combination of petrodollars and funds gained from Moslem pilgrims on Hajj.) They do not want to see that situation altered, and a nuclear Iran, with more clout for rival clerics from a different sect, who would displace them, does not enter the picture.
Thus, it is in the Wahabbi cleric's own best interest to assure that the Shiite mullahs of Iran do not displace them. They themselves could well privately 'turn a blind eye' to covert assistance from the Royal family to an Israeli pre-emptive stike, while they may well condemn it publicly, albeit rather weakly...
the infowarrior
I have to say it’s a shame that a muslim nation treats Israel better then we do. Of course, I understand that Saudi Arabia ain’t worried about Israeli attacking them either. Iran on the other hand...
” hmmmm...can you trust them? The US State Dept I mean...”
You mean the State Department that along with Obama tried to re install a drug dealing Marxist dictator in Honduras?
That State Department?
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