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To: Irisshlass

Nope, just go to the Oil Drum website and read realiable information. Pressure in producing formation was measured at 11,800 (approx.) and at the BOP during top kill attempt was 8,300 but is now down to about 4,400.

It is not the well from hell but is one rip snorter.

The technology to kill it we have.

All the speculation is crap.


6 posted on 06/21/2010 2:59:50 PM PDT by biff
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To: biff

You sure know how to ruin a good “sky is falling” thread.


10 posted on 06/21/2010 3:07:04 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: biff
Florida Real Estate Prices: Guess Which Direction This Chart Will Go

"With a complete loss in the Gulf coast tourism industry we can reasonably expect rental properties to get absolutely hammered. And, if the oil leak is as bad as we hope it’s not then we may very well have hundreds, if not thousands, of miles of destroyed beach front and surrounding properties. The environmental ramifications in terms of dangerous gases and oil covered beaches will lead to even higher delinquency and default rates across the southern United States."

In the event of mass, longer-term evacuations, we could potentially be looking at real estate prices going to Detroit price levels in some areas, which have literally reached $1 on some homes."

I've been trying to get an answer to the question of what would/could occur that would require mass, longer-term evacuations.

Can you answer this question?

13 posted on 06/21/2010 3:08:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: biff

Oh BSSSSSSSSS, If was down 4,400 they could shut it off easily...hydraulic actuators operate at 3000 psi.


17 posted on 06/21/2010 3:24:25 PM PDT by Irisshlass
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To: biff; blam; Sequoyah101; Sub-Driver; BOBTHENAILER; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; onyx; NormsRevenge; ...
In addition to that,...from the Oil Drum....someone had looked at the Log which seem to indicate that the pay zone was only 60 feet ...much smaller than the usual 300 to 600 feet in many other GOM wells.

ERGO...

This is not that big of an oil source....they simply screwed up with the design,...monitoring...BOP malfunctions...etc...

Let me refer to a post by Sequoyah101 :

Ned’s First Reader on deep water drilling

26 posted on 06/21/2010 5:51:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: biff; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Nope, just go to the Oil Drum website and read realiable information. Pressure in producing formation was measured at 11,800 (approx.) and at the BOP during top kill attempt was 8,300 but is now down to about 4,400. It is not the well from hell but is one rip snorter. The technology to kill it we have. All the speculation is crap."
Ditto.
Just today as I choked down some late dinner after coming home from work watching the world news, they showed a blip from the Florida Governor saying..... 95% of all their beaches where still pristine...white sands, ready for tourist to come down and enjoy some time at their shore lines.
And those big "plumes". Notice no one has yet with authority claimed they are in any way underwater (oil floats to the surface for God sake... it has a lower sp then salt water regardless of temperature gradients)...proven it to be a huge flow of underwater oil. EPA estimates from the lab that samples where on the order of 0.5ppm...
And that is quite a low reading of oil within volume as you all are aware.
There is to damn much political work at play here as well as evil intentions to shut down gulf oil and gas production IMHO.
I do fully recognize the areas in LA, and eastward that have seen oil in various forms of decomposition landing within critical salt marsh environs. My elder bro who is a PD chemist and for many years dating back to the mid seventies upward worked directly on such issues with a few world experts of salt marsh chemical pollutions etc., educated me as how things can go terribly wrong. So I do not minimize what is happening along part of the gulf within the coastal and marsh regions.
But I for one am convinced only a small part of the total spill has made its way to our coastal areas at this point.
Perhaps I need a further education.
I was born in 1946. I grew up in Philly. As a boy then teenager witnessed the huge petrochemical industrial pollution in my area along the Delaware River system, coastal waterways leading into the Atlantic ocean, etc.. So I am not adverse to clean environment. I know what it is like to dive into the river mentioned above from my 45 foot Sea Explore ship and not see a damn bit of of sun rays penetrate the water till my head almost reached the surface. I watched terrible petrochemical firms literally blocks from my home explode and shake the houses to their roots, windows almost falling out. In some cases windows falling out of my local school... raging fires due to faulty equipement failures etc.. all kinds of shit being spilled into the air every day that I had to breath etc..
Looking at oil greased shorelines etc..
I have seen what industries belch forth...Rohm and Hayes... creater of fiber glass... just half mile from my home... the list can go on....
Point is. I yet to see where if they can stop the well spill soon with the soon to be placed new cap and suck the gas and oil to the drilling rig then cap the whole well eventually once the either of the two relief drilling platforms accomplish their mission, that we will within a few years see no setbacks in this region from the wildlife and vegetation regrowth view point.
And as for the many very low level little island chains with specific types of marsh grasses for instance, that help keep the soil/mud/sand mixture in place... I do recognize they could be diminished in size. But let us carefully look at that issue. It has been a on going issue for many many years in this region. And not just there but easily along the East coast and most likely parts of the west coast as well for a number of good reasons. Spare me. I think you guys have a feel as to what I am communicating. One hell of a badly placed hurrican could take out many of these little fragile island systems on a permenant basis. I saw it happen in New Jersey many years back. And there was not frigen oil spill.
As for the so many that are being effected from the economic impact this spill has caused I do feel for them.
Like you three. I wish it never had come to this.
You do not have to feel obligated to respond. I am just voicing my partial view. I have tommorow off from work and will attempt to respond if you so desire. Do all have a great upcoming day. YEA! I am off work tommorow.
36 posted on 06/21/2010 8:29:06 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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