Why Islam Will Never Accept the State of Israel

It is a common belief that the "Arab Israel conflict" is a conflict of two peoples fighting over the same piece of land and is therefore one of nationalism. Rarely, if ever, do we hear or read of the religious component to this conflict.

However, if anything, the conflict is more of a "Muslim-Jewish" one than an "Arab-Israeli" one. In other words, the conflict is based on religion -- Islam vs. Judaism -- cloaked in Arab nationalism vs. Zionism. The fact of the matter is that in every Arab-Israeli war, from 1948 to the present, cries of "jihad," "Allahu Akbar," and the bloodcurdling scream of "Idbah al- Yahud" (slaughter the Jews) have resonated amongst even the most secular of Arab leaders, be it Nasser in the 1950s and 1960s or the supposedly "secular" PLO of the 1960s to the present. Indeed, the question must be asked: If this is really a conflict of different nationalisms and not Islamic supremacism, then why is it that virtually no non-Arab Muslim states have full (if any) relations with Israel?

There is a common Arabic slogan that is chanted in the Middle East: "Khaybar, Khaybar! Oh Jews, remember. The armies of Muhammad are returning!" It would be most interesting to know how many people have ever heard what -- or more precisely, where -- Khaybar is, and what the Arabs mean by such a slogan. A short history of the Jews of Arabia is needed in order to explain this, and why Islam remains so inflexible in its hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.

Until the founder of Islam, Muhammad ibn Abdallah, proclaimed himself "Messenger of Allah" in the 7th century, Jews and Arabs lived together peacefully in the Arabian Peninsula. Indeed, the Jews -- and Judaism -- were respected to such an extent that an Arab king converted to Judaism in the 5th century. His name was Dhu Nuwas, and he ruled over the Himyar (present day Yemen) area of the Arabian Peninsula. In fact, it is most likely that the city of Medina (the second-holiest city in Islam) -- then called Yathrib -- was originally founded by Jews. In any event, at the time of Muhammad's "calling," three important Jewish tribes existed in Arabia: Banu Qurayza, Banu Nadir, and Banu Qaynuqa.

Muhammad was very keen on having the Jews accept him as a prophet to the extent that he charged his followers not to eat pig and to pray in the direction of Jerusalem. However, the Jews apparently were not very keen on Muhammad, his proclamation of himself as a prophet, or his poor knowledge of the Torah (Hebrew Bible). Numerous verbal altercations are recorded in the Qur'an and various Hadiths about these conflicts between the Jewish tribes and Muhammad.

Eventually, the verbal conflicts turned into physical conflicts, and when the Jews outwardly rejected Muhammad as the "final seal of the prophets," he turned on them with a vengeance. The atrocities that were committed against these tribes are too numerous to cite in a single article, but two tribes, the Qaynuqa and Nadir, were expelled from their villages by Muhammad. It appears that the Qaynuqa left Arabia around 624 A.D. The refugees of the Nadir settled in the village of Khaybar.

In 628 A.D., Muhammad turned on the last Jewish tribe, the Qurayza, claiming that they were in league with Muhammad's Arab pagan enemies and had "betrayed" him. Muhammad and his army besieged the Qurayza, and after a siege of over three weeks, the Qurayza surrendered. While many Arabs pleaded with Muhammad to let the Qurayza leave unmolested, Muhammad had other plans. Unlike expelling the Qaynuqa and Nadir, Muhammad exterminated the Qurayza, with an estimated 600 to 900 Jewish men being beheaded in one day. The women and children were sold into slavery, and Muhammad took one of the widows, Rayhana, as a "concubine."

In 629 A.D., Muhammad led a campaign against the surviving Jews of Nadir, now living in Khaybar. The battle was again bloody and barbaric, and the survivors of the massacre were either expelled or allowed to remain as "second-class citizens." Eventually, upon the ascension of Omar as caliph, most Jews were expelled from Arabia around the year 640 A.D.

This brings us, then, to the question of why modern-day Muslims still boast of the slaughter of the Jewish tribes and the Battle of Khaybar. The answer lies in what the Qur'an -- and later on, the various Hadiths -- says about the Jews. The Qur'an is replete with verses that can be described only as virulently anti-Semitic. The amount of Surahs is too numerous to cite, but a few will suffice: Surah 2:75 (Jews distorted the Torah); 2:91 (Jews are prophet-killers), 4:47 (Jews have distorted the Bible and have incurred condemnation from Allah for breaking the Sabbath), 5:60 (Jews are cursed, and turned into monkeys and pigs), and 5:82 (Jews and pagans are the strongest in enmity to the Muslims and Allah). And of course, there is the genocidal Hadith from Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:177, which would make Adolph Hitler proud. "The Day of Judgment will not have come until you fight with the Jews, and the stones and the trees behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!"' Thus, the Arab Muslims had their own "final solution" in store for the Jews already in the 7th century.

The fact that Muslims still point to these (and many other) hateful verses in the Qur'an and Hadith should give Jews -- not just Israelis -- pause to consider if there can ever be true peace between Muslims and Jews, let alone between Muslims and Israel. When the armies of Islam occupied the area of Byzantine "Palestine" in the 7th century, the land became part of "Dar al-Islam" (House of Islam). Until that area is returned to Islam, (i.e., Israel's extermination), she remains part of "Dar al harb" (House of War). It now becomes clear that this is a conflict of religious ideology and not a conflict over a piece of "real estate."

Finally, one must ask the question: Aside from non-Arab Turkey, whose relations with Israel are presently teetering on the verge of collapse, why is it that no other non-Arab Muslim country in the Middle East has ever had full relations (if any at all) with Israel, such as faraway countries like Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan? Indeed, why would Persian Iran -- conquered by the Arabs -- have such a deep hatred for Jews and Israel, whereas a non-Muslim country such as India does not feel such enmity? The answer is painfully clear: The contempt in which the Qur'an and other Islamic writings hold Jews does not exist in the scriptures of the Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, and other Eastern religions. Therefore, people that come from non-Muslim states do not have this inherent hatred towards Jews, and by extension, towards Israel. But when a people -- or peoples -- is raised with a scripture that regards another people and religion as immoral and less than human, then it is axiomatic why such hatred and disdain exists on the part of Muslims for Jews and Israel.

Islam -- as currently interpreted and practiced -- cannot accept a Jewish state of any size in its midst. Unless Muslims come to terms with their holy writings vis-à-vis Jews, Judaism, and Israel and go through some sort of "reformation," it will be unlikely that true peace will ever come to the Middle East. In the meantime, unless Islam reforms, Israel should accept the fact that the Muslims will never accept Israel as a permanent fact in the Middle East and the current Israeli Palestinian Conflict is only the tip of the iceberg to a coming greater conflict.

That is true. But it will begin with Russia, and the Muslim and Arab Nations coming against Israel, and then eventually the whole world in the “Battle of Armageddon”.

And we know who the winner will be - Jesus Christ when He returns to the Earth to reclaim it and reigns from Yerushalayim for a thousand years with a rod of iron in rightiousness, holiness, justice, and peace!!!!

It really is quite simple. Moslems see Israel as an intrusion into mohammed's turf. Its existence thus is an enduring insult to Allah. There ain't no negotiating with assholes who belive this kind of crap. That's why I have said there must be a decisive military decision to change the reality on the ground. Otherwise Israel will not survive as a Jewish State.

Jews with their scholarship represent an existential threat to the entire theory of I-slam. In the time between the tower of Babel and the last Jewish Prophets there were a number of practices intended to communicate with the spirit realm and those things, including Greek oracles and Jewish prophets amongst them all involved trance states like hypnotism and they all involved static electricity. All such things stopped working prior to the time of Alexander and never worked afterwards. You can read this in Julian Jaynes' comments about Zechariah and in the first paragraph of Hebrews which describes prophets as a thing of the distant past at the time of Christ.

ANYBODY claiming to be a prophet beyond the time of Alexander is a liar and a BS artist and, to my thinking at least, that includes Mohammed (MHBH), Joseph Smith, AND the author of the book of Revelations which, again in my estimation, should be removed from the Bible. It does not add to whatever appeal Christianity might have to educated people.

>>Why Islam Will Never Accept the State of Israel>>

Muslims, Marxists and PaleoCons, working for the destruction of Israel and in turn Western Civilization

When will some people get a clue that we are at war for our
civilization.

Jimmy Carter.

Jimmy's antisemitism combined with his pusillanimity ‘inspired’ the Arabs.

Before Jimmy, Arabs were poor uneducated savages. But Jimmy, and the Leftists in Israel told them that they can be more than that. They can aspire to ‘greatness’.

However, their poor primitive minds could not understand greatness. So, they equated it with how many Infidels they can kill.

Poor deluded Leftists. They just cannot grasp that if they just stay out of the way and let the ‘adults’ run things, that everything will be much better.

There is one certain way to find ‘Peace’. Nobody wants to talk about it.

Every place in the world, every time, every culture it is always the same. No Muslims = No Problems.

Their culture is simply too aggressive and murderous for civilized people.

“ANYBODY claiming to be a prophet beyond the time of Alexander is a liar and a BS artist and, to my thinking at least, that includes Mohammed (MHBH), Joseph Smith, AND the author of the book of Revelations which, again in my estimation, should be removed from the Bible. It does not add to whatever appeal Christianity might have to educated people.” TOTALLY AGREE!

In the western world, the Book of Revelations is the source of more insanity than can be calculated. It has inspired schizophrenics for centuries. But, that pales in comparison to the insanity of Islam, which overturned centuries of family structure wisdom AND even the wisdom of shepherds tending flocks.

You don’t let one male be the father, grandfather, great grandfather and great-great grandfather of the herd, yet this is the poisonous genetic blueprint of Satan/Mohammed. To satisfy his lust, he turned aside thousands of years of wisdom concerning family structure. But how do you stop a religion which allows men to rape women, boys and female domesticated animals with impunity? You can’t.

The writer makes the point that the Moslems hatred of the Jews is ancient, and began with Mohammed and the Jews rejection of him as a prophet. But for whatever reason, the Moslem/Jew conflict in the Middle East was always referred to as the Arab/Israeli conflict during all the events from the Six Day War in 1967 up until 9/11/2001.

Except for occasional references to “Islamic fundamentalism”, the religious element of the Arabs was seldom mentioned until 9/11 and the greatly increased interest in Islam that followed, and its teachings and attitude toward the non-Moslem world.

That was probably party PCness and partly ignorance on the part of most in the MSM.

This is good historical information. I wasn’t aware of the history of these cities.

There is another reason Islam can’t accept Israel that wasn’t brought out in this article... Allahu Akbar (god is greatest). It is their battle cry for a purpose. The way Islam has been spread throughout Arab lands is the same way bedouin culture spread... by conquest or assimilation. If your tribe could beat the next tribe, then your god is stronger and the other tribe was foolish to follow their weak god. They should follow your stronger god. This practice was rampant at the time of Mohammed.

Therefore, it is a holy imperative that they can’t lose. They can have setbacks (remember Baghdad Bob?) and reversals... but never defeat. Defeat means that their god is not the greatest. Once a land has been under Sharia Law, it will return to Sharia Law... or their faith is false.

Israel’s very existence is a religious problem for them.

There are many ‘crazy” books that one would think would have inspired ‘schizo’s”....Why would you think that the book of the Revelation of John should have such pre-eminate influence over other influences amongst the insane and the schizophrenic; indeed, such influences that seem to mirror the stories of the Demon’s going into frenzy in the presence of Jesus Christ?

Are you saying that Revelation caused the illnesses in these folks, or brought it violently forth in such a fashion that Revelation must be seen as a book of evil? What of the notions of demonic control and oppression, are these also of doubtful existence? Yet assuming such exist, would they not tremble at the descriptions of their eventual judgment, causing great distress in those folks they currently afflict?

A Christian psychiatrist once told me if you give Haldol and other therapies to a schizophrenic and he responds and functions in a more useful fashion, the individual is simply mentally ill...if nothing works call an exorcist.

And of course, there is the genocidal Hadith from Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:177, which would make Adolph Hitler proud. "The Day of Judgment will not have come until you fight with the Jews, and the stones and the trees behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!"' Thus, the Arab Muslims had their own "final solution" in store for the Jews already in the 7th century.

Interesting, because the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini, on the run from the British, moved to Berlin in 1941, and started meeting with Hitler's government. He was trying to get Hitler's help in fighting against a Jewish homeland in the British ruled Palestine. I believe it was after he arrived that the "Final Solution" of the "Jewish Problem" was conceived. Coincidence? I, for one, don't think so.

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